Airshow performers

Hacker15e said:
What, exactly, is someone supposed to say to such a question? Not only is it a loaded question, but begs the question, too. Well done...I think.
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Kinda like the "do you still beat your wife" question.. You can't say yes and you can't say no.. ;)

I mean, I'm pretty sure I like you and I know I respect what you do, but sometimes you just come off as like, well, like since the rest of us are not military guys we're clueless.. I dunno. Maybe you don't mean it that way, but it just comes off that way sometimes..
 
*shrug*. A lot worse ways to get dead. And, FWIW, I've always taken Hacker's rather (forgive me) obvious condescension towards civil...well, "anyone who isn't Him" to be a sign of a healthy ego. Certainly necessary in his occupation (imho), and possibly necessary in ours. It's not that he's not wrong...having a healthy ego (some might claim slightly overfed) myself, I'm well aware that there's no arbiter to prove to me that I'm right...it's that I'd rather be talked down to by a guy who thinks he's better than me and then punch him in the nose (theoretically speaking, here, don't kick my ass yet, hacker) than to have someone say soothing words to me they don't really mean.

With that said, in planes with spinny things on the front, like days of yore, I will absolutely litter the ground with pieces of Hacker's chariot. The gauntlet is thrown! SPAD 13s at twenty paces, you nancy!

This is what the interwebz are for.
 
Boris Badenov said:
*shrug*. A lot worse ways to get dead. And, FWIW, I've always taken Hacker's rather (forgive me) obvious condescension towards civil...well, "anyone who isn't Him" to be a sign of a healthy ego. Certainly necessary in his occupation (imho), and possibly necessary in ours. It's not that he's not wrong...having a healthy ego (some might claim slightly overfed) myself, I'm well aware that there's no arbiter to prove to me that I'm right...it's that I'd rather be talked down to by a guy who thinks he's better than me and then punch him in the nose (theoretically speaking, here, don't kick my ass yet, hacker) than to have someone say soothing words to me they don't really mean.

With that said, in planes with spinny things on the front, like days of yore, I will absolutely litter the ground with pieces of Hacker's chariot. The gauntlet is thrown! SPAD 13s at twenty paces, you nancy!

This is what the interwebz are for.
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Are you drinking?
 
Boris Badenov said:
*shrug*. A lot worse ways to get dead. And, FWIW, I've always taken Hacker's rather (forgive me) obvious condescension towards civil...well, "anyone who isn't Him" to be a sign of a healthy ego. Certainly necessary in his occupation (imho), and possibly necessary in ours. It's not that he's not wrong...having a healthy ego (some might claim slightly overfed) myself, I'm well aware that there's no arbiter to prove to me that I'm right...it's that I'd rather be talked down to by a guy who thinks he's better than me and then punch him in the nose (theoretically speaking, here, don't kick my ass yet, hacker) than to have someone say soothing words to me they don't really mean.

With that said, in planes with spinny things on the front, like days of yore, I will absolutely litter the ground with pieces of Hacker's chariot. The gauntlet is thrown! SPAD 13s at twenty paces, you nancy!

This is what the interwebz are for.
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Which brings up an incredibly interesting question. I'm a WW1 aviation buff - my favorite aerial carnage occured between 1914 and 1918.

So here it is: What WW1 fighter do you want? I'll take the Fokker DVII. If I could have a fighter of choice AND a time of choice, I'd take the Eindecker immediately after the synchronized gun - that would have been fun - like fish in a barrel.
 
WacoFan said:
Which brings up an incredibly interesting question. I'm a WW1 aviation buff - my favorite aerial carnage occured between 1914 and 1918.

So here it is: What WW1 fighter do you want? I'll take the Fokker DVII. If I could have a fighter of choice AND a time of choice, I'd take the Eindecker immediately after the synchronized gun - that would have been fun - like fish in a barrel.
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I tend more towards the WW2 era, but as Dawn Of Flight fighters go...well, I mentioned the SPAD for good reason. It was the original boom-n-zoom machine. Heavy, fast, good dive, controllable at high speeds, terrible climb. Much like WW2 US machines (and the sainted FW190, which is next to the MU-2 in my aviation heart).

They were chess players' airplanes. While Richtoven was yanking and banking all over the place, shooting the heck out of our boys, the chess players were slowly climbing away from the action (with their heads on a swivel) for the opportunity to come screaming through an enemy formation, guns blazing, only to disappear again and rinse, wash, repeat. Turn fighting is for suckers. Ask anyone but Saburo Sakai.
 
Does it make me sick and murderous to think it would be a blast to have an Eindecker with a synchronized machine gun while nobody else does? I would think it like a video game where you make the settings "easy" and "don't die". Imagine Immelman pulling up behind an enemy the first time and letting rip. Had to rank as an all time "low moment" for his prey, but can you imagine your first flight with a synchronized machine gun while your enemy still doesn't have it? That feeling has to be better than a new car or something.
 
WacoFan said:
Does it make me sick and murderous to think it would be a blast to have an Eindecker with a synchronized machine gun while nobody else does? I would think it like a video game where you make the settings "easy" and "don't die". Imagine Immelman pulling up behind an enemy the first time and letting rip. Had to rank as an all time "low moment" for his prey, but can you imagine your first flight with a synchronized machine gun while your enemy still doesn't have it? That feeling has to be better than a new car or something.
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Ahhh you are sick for wanting to kill your fellow JCers Waco... However very bright
 
Boris Badenov said:
I've always taken Hacker's rather (forgive me) obvious condescension towards civil...well, "anyone who isn't Him" to be a sign of a healthy ego.
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Interesting how tones and intents get construed when using the printed word rather than the spoken one.

I'd hope that anyone who knows me personally (and a few on here do...) would disagree with that perception, though, because I certainly don't see myself that way.

I don't look down my nose at civil aviators. I am one myself...who just happens to also have had some military training and experiences, too.

If I come off as one of those "always right" guys, it's likely because I have been brought up in a rather cutthroat world where skill, competence, and confidence are expected as baseline attributes. That tends to affect one's methods of communitcation.
 
Hacker15e said:
Interesting how tones and intents get construed when using the printed word rather than the spoken one.

I'd hope that anyone who knows me personally (and a few on here do...) would disagree with that perception, though, because I certainly don't see myself that way.

I don't look down my nose at civil aviators. I am one myself...who just happens to also have had some military training and experiences, too.

If I come off as one of those "always right" guys, it's likely because I have been brought up in a rather cutthroat world where skill, competence, and confidence are expected as baseline attributes. That tends to affect one's methods of communitcation.
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Yeh, it's the lack of inflection.. I've seen you on other boards, quite a few actually, and you're always pretty straight forward there, as well as here.. Sometimes, I find myself saying "I know, Hacker, I fly too." No worries though, I'd say you're pretty firmly in the "good guy" stack..

I've said things on here that were not meant to be inflammatory, but were taking as such. One user has a username with "guy" in it.. I called him JimBoy instead of JimGuy and wow did that start some excitement. Returned my serve by calling me "Tramp." I never meant to insult the kid, but I guess I did..
 
I would agree that the perceived tone is a lot different than in real life. Hacker is a pretty soft spoken guy in real life with a passion for general aviation... and like any good pilot he can draw on a multitude of diverse aviation experiences to formulate thoughts about airmanship, flying, and professional bowling. He never came across as egotistical at all... as a matter of fact, quite a humble guy with TONS of experience in good and bad situations... which may only come out after several beers and a lot of prying questions.:)
 
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