TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
Positions will be decided via conference call today, we will make sure to have the number/pass code on crewweb by tomorrow. Please join us for this very important phone call!
PNCL pilots are our brothers! Unity?
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Positions will be decided via conference call today, we will make sure to have the number/pass code on crewweb by tomorrow. Please join us for this very important phone call!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
It's important to remember that "we own our future" (got the t-shirt from pinnacle), AND it's dark!
L-16B
Well-Known Member
sherpa
Well-Known Member
Man I didnt get that shirt
Man, I just got a "unofficial copy" of the ISL and it basically has me at #1 wither #2 reading "everyone else"
all your flying are belong to me.:crazy:
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
.... ?
GlenA
Senior Chicken Counter
Man I didnt get that shirt
I got the sandwich, just as dark...but tasty!
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
Bloch's coming over for beers and brats this weekend. He's got all the names in the hat, and we'll begin the draw about 1000L.
We've decided that after we get good and drunk and start drawing more than one name at a time (3000 ish is a lot), then we'll use a ouiji board to pick who's most senior out of the group.
It'll take about 3 hours to write an explanation of each sides arguments worked out.
See you on Monday!
We've decided that after we get good and drunk and start drawing more than one name at a time (3000 ish is a lot), then we'll use a ouiji board to pick who's most senior out of the group.
It'll take about 3 hours to write an explanation of each sides arguments worked out.
See you on Monday!
blee256
Well-Known Member
U should try the jw double black. My friend loves it. But u can only find it in a few duty free shops. And if u're true walker fan, u can get a fifth of blue label for 114 at th MSP duty free with ur crew discount.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
Or, you can go to NH on an overnight and get it for 90ish.
This waiting is killing me... my sli survival stash is down to almost nothing!
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Hernandezcfi
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Or, you can go to NH on an overnight and get it for 90ish.
This waiting is killing me... my sli survival stash is down to almost nothing!
Your running low on Juice boxes :crazy:
jynxyjoe
Queso King
All -900's except for 6 on the Mesaba side. Why?
Gonzo
Well-Known Member
As someone from the outside, I am just trying to see why people are against DOH with a fence to keep 9L guys from getting kicked out of their seats. Jr CA at XJ and 9E about the same.
= win.
Don't get wrapped up over your seniority "number". However the percentage is the important part.
I had a scalp-scratcher with a person who was something like 4,800 of 5,000, that expected to be 4,800 out of 12,000.
Ummm, crack kitty say whuuuut?!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Well, I think one side is fairly certain they want a category and class method (which screws Colgan a little and leaves lot's of question marks on our side at Mesaba) and the other would like to see a Relative Integration. Maybe it would help to look at this from a QOL perspective?
Assume DOH (which is what your question is about):
Colgan will see hundreds of people all the sudden in front of them. Assume a '04 DOH at Colgan and you're talking 400 people in front of him/her easily. MAYBE more like 500. Take an '06 hire who is mid level on a Q and you're talking 500. Not bad right? But that's just Mesaba. Look at Pinnacle and you can add 280 and 600 respectively. Not such a great deal for them. That's sometimes why DOH is a dealerbreaker for SOME Colgan people.
It should be said right now, in words so clear that it is impossible to be misunderstood, that most Colgan pilots want something fair. I don't know every Colgan pilot, but I firmly believe that.
Pinnacle mid level pilots could care less about DOH. Many of them will be senior to almost half my list and, by my math, 3/4 of the Colgan list. So it's good for them. However senior pilots on Pinnacle will get knocked down hundred of numbers. I think Kell put it best when he said, "Our senior guy is immediately #15 after DOH, that is unacceptable", or something to that effect. I'll be the first to admit, I've adamant with every rep I speak to that senior guys should be protected. Steve is a good guy and means well and I absolutely reflect his sentiment. One letter I wrote to our union reps in the beginning of this disaster of a merger said, "I expect you guys to take care of the senior pilots at this airline".
A lot of us, me included, look up to our senior pilots. I'm young, I can take a hit on seniority, and I'll bet you I can line up junior pilots from all three airlines that will say the same. One clown on this forum called me, "the guardian angel of pilots", now he was being derogatory and maybe that is a complex of mine, but I imagine I'm far from the only one. That's sometimes where this stuff gets confusing, a lot of this stuff is personal and gets taken personally. Sometimes that removes rational thought.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
If you're back up this way, first juice box is on me!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Lol. Juice box? I've graditated to V-8 Splash baby!
EDIT: Also I would add with the same conviction, that I believe MOST Pinnacle pilots want something fair as well.
Perspective is such a bitch.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Aww, poor cry-babies. Heaven fobid Colgan pilots get credit for simply time spent in-industry (aka, DOH). Oh, the horror! Oh unjust and unfair that would be!
etflies
Keeping calm, Chiving on.
Aww, poor cry-babies. Heaven fobid Colgan pilots get credit for simply time spent in-industry (aka, DOH). Oh, the horror! Oh unjust and unfair that would be!
Says the guy who thinks it would be ok for himself to be placed above who knows how many pilots at the other two companies that have spent more time in the industry than he, simply because of the name next to the "Operated By:" decal on his shiny jet.