PNCL pilots are our brothers! Unity?

jynxyjoe said:
He's a 92002 that worked as a MX for 6 (or was it 8?) years until he came over as a pilot. My understanding was they changed his DOH to something meaningful. Now perhaps 93004 would make more sense. Perhaps you should worry less about positioning yourself as anything other than a junior pilot group compared to Mesaba when everyone at Mesaba has the CJC list.

To add, at quick glance there at 90 guys senior to 93004, your next guy is still 97 right? there's about 60 or 70 in between on your next guy. Ok let's see, there's an '04 hire... there's only about 30ish guys ahead of him on your list and there are 430 on ours... wait that can't be right. Nope wait.. it is.
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An 04 DOH is number 30 at 9L?
Wow he would be about 1550 here at AE.
 
Gonzo said:
An 04 DOH is number 30 at 9L?
Wow he would be about 1550 here at AE.
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Yes, but their senior pilot is a 93 hire. That makes it better.

For what it's worth, that '93 hire taught me what QOL was all about. I may not agree with his choice of staying at Colgan, but that man was home almost every night in the land that he love. Gave me a lot of solid advice while we did the Domino Schedule (thanks to George A. Casey) toward the end of my tenure at Colgan, most important piece was to get the hell out of Colgan and onto Mesaba or anything because Colgan Airlines wasn't going to make it with the Q's. Like clockwork, here we are.

Also, if I ever run an airline, I'm going to be looking for his exact answers he said we should all give at any airline interview when they ask, "Why do you want to work here". I would repeat them, but they aren't safe for work.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Ask US Airways guys............ they'll tell you.
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SteveC said:
I don't know any. What might they tell me if I were to find one?
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Well, I'd imagine they'd say they're hating life, seeing as how they continue to operate their aircraft on a woefully outdated contract, with woefully outdated pay scales due solely to their inability to get along and accept an arbitrated SLI. To add insult to stupidity, they decided to split from a 60,000 strong union and form an in-house comedy shop instead. So, yeah......panties in a wad ala US Airways = ultimate fail.......accepting reality and moving on ala Delta/ NW = reasonable solution to an otherwise not-so-great deal. I know which solution I choose.
 
pilotlight said:
So will all of us actually get to see the list on Friday or will only the unions for review
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I know it's going to Merger Committee/ MEC review prior to being released over here. Can't speak for the other groups; however, I'd be willing to bet something similar at all shops.
 
jynxyjoe said:
He's a 92002 that worked as a MX for 6 (or was it 8?) years until he came over as a pilot. My understanding was they changed his DOH to something meaningful. Now perhaps 93004 would make more sense. Perhaps you should worry less about positioning yourself as anything other than a junior pilot group compared to Mesaba when everyone at Mesaba has the CJC list.

To add, at quick glance there at 90 guys senior to 93004, your next guy is still 97 right? there's about 60 or 70 in between on your next guy. Ok let's see, there's an '04 hire... there's only about 30ish guys ahead of him on your list and there are 430 on ours... wait that can't be right. Nope wait.. it is.
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If it is your intent to paint us as junior, then you should use facts and not make up hire dates.

And to answer your your prior question, said 92 hire produced a offer letter dated in 1992 that stated he was being hired as a pilot. So his 92 DOH stands.
 
Here is an official snapshot of the demographics of our new family combined.

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We are a surprisingly junior airline.
 
SmitteyB said:
If it is your intent to paint us as junior, then you should use facts and not make up hire dates.

And to answer your your prior question, said 92 hire produced a offer letter dated in 1992 that stated he was being hired as a pilot. So his 92 DOH stands.
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I'm not painting you as junior. Let me get this straight, with this new information you have a 92 hire, a 93 hire, a 97 hire, your 98 and 99 hires go down to 17ish on your list right? 17 out of 600 is what? 2%? same # down our list is an 88 hire, next guy down is an 88 hire. Next guy on your list is an 02 hire? IF your intent is to paint yourself as a senior good luck, to my knowledge everyone has the lists and I think everyone can do addition and subtraction.

v1valarob said:
Here is an official snapshot of the demographics of our new family combined.

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We are a surprisingly junior airline.
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We are not a we yet. Combine three airlines together and yes we are a junior group. I am simply exposing Smitty's little red herring about current facts. Trying to distract us with a single 92 hire as somehow negating Walters point is weak and transparent. HOLDING onto that little factoid (which still puts that 92 hire about 10% down our list) and pretending it's relevant is a bizarre way to convince anyone. I'd say it's more "preaching to the choir" than anything else.

The fact remains the top 550 guys here have a median seniority of 11 years. Even from that chart it's easy to see the first Colgan guy doesn't even come into the picture until the 19 years block. You don't even start talking about any real block of pilots until the 8 year tier (about 20 down). That slide show information is from the roadshow about 3-4 months ago right?
 
jynxyjoe said:
Supposedly. Richard actually had ribs over here last night and gave me a preview. Bastard stapled me to the bottom because he didn't like his ribs muddy.
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Must have been right before he came over to my place for beer. Who'd a thought his all time favorite brew was MGD. Propelled me right up to the top!:rawk:
 
Avalon781ML said:
But FourLoko is still the best bang for the buck...
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Now you're getting into "Status and Category" which is apparently tough for our feeble minds to understand. But here goes my college try.... In order:

Group 1) Anything not brewed in Texas
Group 2) Anything brewed in Texas

I think I nailed it!
 
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