Slipping a 172 with flaps

[Mike H]

oh yeah? well, a DPE, I think, told me that a slip with full flpas would shock cool the engine!

so there!

 

[inigo88]

Only when they see you raise flaps in flare. I should call FSDO on this thread.

:clap::clap::clap:

 

[Blackhawk]

An instructor/ AP told me it puts too much stress on the sides of the flaps and the connectors break. He said they are made to take the force from the front, not from the side.

Ask him/her the reference for this statement.

 

[TopGunn]

An instructor/ AP told me it puts too much stress on the sides of the flaps and the connectors break. He said they are made to take the force from the front, not from the side.

I am sure Cessna never thought of that when they tested the airplane.

 

[Roger, Roger]

An instructor/ AP told me it puts too much stress on the sides of the flaps and the connectors break. He said they are made to take the force from the front, not from the side.

That is simply not true. The only way to do that is to extend the flaps well past Vfe.

 

[z987k]

That is simply not true. The only way to do that is to extend the flaps well past Vfe.

Actually, to what was quoted, I doubt it's possible at all to put too much stress on the sides of the flaps, if I'm understanding what is being said. Maybe if the airplane was capable of flying 90* to the relative wind.

 

[elmetal]

if you can't slip a plane with flaps down, how do you land in a crosswind, sideways?

 

[Blackhawk]

An instructor/ AP told me it puts too much stress on the sides of the flaps and the connectors break. He said they are made to take the force from the front, not from the side.

No one is slamming your, just what you were told. I don't think the FAA would have certified the 172 were this the case; if they did it would be accompanied by a limitation as in "Prohibited" and would have a warning.

 

[pilot1278]

A student of mine actually called Cessna and talked to them about it. According to them, it was a passenger comfort issue and not a structural issue.

 

[TwoTwoLeft]

An instructor/ AP told me it puts too much stress on the sides of the flaps and the connectors break. He said they are made to take the force from the front, not from the side.

Maybe if you slipped at Vne... A that point, the vertical stab would probably go all Airbus on you too...

 

[Cirriform]

A student of mine actually called Cessna and talked to them about it. According to them, it was a passenger comfort issue and not a structural issue.

Nice ! Been slipping the 172 myself with full flaps, never really noticed anything except for maybe a slight flutter.

 

[TopGunn]

if you can't slip a plane with flaps down, how do you land in a crosswind, sideways?

ummm no flaps?

 

[elmetal]

ummm no flaps?

sure, you could do that, or you could just slip with 30deg and have half the landing roll

 

[Matt13C]

sure, you could do that, or you could just slip with 30deg and have half the landing roll

You're dangerous!

 

[Cirriform]

You're dangerous!

Your ego is writing checks your body can't cash etc?

 

[TopGunn]

Your ego is writing checks your body can't cash etc?

Yes Sir!

 

[Matt13C]

Your ego is writing checks your body can't cash etc?

The data on the Cessna is inaccurate.

 

[mshunter]

Maybe if you slipped at Vne... A that point, the vertical stab would probably go all Airbus on you too...

Thats going to be a new quote I think!

 

[mshunter]

I don't think the FAA would have certified the 172 were this the case

The Eclipse was certified. On a weekend to boot. (Sept. 30th 2006, a Saturday). There is a whole mess of problems with that airframe.

 

[A150K]

The Eclipse was certified. On a weekend to boot. (Sept. 30th 2006, a Saturday). There is a whole mess of problems with that airframe.

The whole VLJ thing scares me. Not so much in a corperate setting, rather the people who buy wayyyyyyy more airplane than they can handle.