Airline Pilots Are Glorified Bus Drivers

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g4downin

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I had a primary student a few years ago, who ,when posed with the question of why not become a professional pilot, responded with the "I don't want to be a glorified bus driver" statement. I thought to myself "ouch, that's my career your talking about". What do you all think of this proverbial slap in the face, when its spewed from the mouths of our fellow men and women? I want to get opinions on this! Do you think you're nothing more than a glorified bus driver? How would you respond?
 
Absolutely wrong. We're not glorified at all.

That's funny...but not.

We are operators in the transportation industry. To think that just anybody can do this is the height of ignorance. I know of nice people with great work ethics, that just couldn't get the hang of handling an airplane. I also knew people who couldn't operate a tiller on a fire truck...

There are thousands of us... But not millions ;)
 
I do not genuinely care what the flying public thinks if it's not well thought out.

To quote George Carlin, "Think about how stupid the average person is, and then realize, that half of 'em are stupider than that!"

Now, if someone approaches me in the airport while I'm at work and actually would like to know about my job I am happy to tell them about it, if they come across as someone who is truly interested and curious about some aspect of what goes on in front of the closed cockpit door. I don't mind talking to people like that at all and I'm happy to have them board early and check out the cockpit for a couple minutes if they want.

But the general public spewing mindless sentences? Don't care.
 
That quote is priceless. RIP G Carlin, he was a national treasure!

It is, and he was, and I love how shortly after that line he went on to talk about Dan Quayle's wife in ways that no other human being could discuss the matter.
 
I had a primary student a few years ago, who ,when posed with the question of why not become a professional pilot, responded with the "I don't want to be a glorified bus driver" statement. I thought to myself "ouch, that's my career your talking about". What do you all think of this proverbial slap in the face, when its spewed from the mouths of our fellow men and women? I want to get opinions on this! Do you think you're nothing more than a glorified bus driver? How would you respond?

What do you think we are? The days of "fate is the hunter" are over, your entire purpose is to transport people and things from point A to point B at a high rate of speed. If you cost too much, you'll be replaced, if they could, they'd replace you with a computer, or at least figure out some way to pay you less. Bus driver? More like videostore clerk, or pizza delivery boy...
 
I had a friend that told me that he didn't want to do any weight training with me at the gym because he wanted to lean up not blow up like some meathead. Like he was going to do one too many reps by mistake and look like he is on steroids. The dude was built like Kermit D Frog, he wasn't at risk of overdoing it. It is easy to underestimate the commitment required to accomplish something that you haven't attempted.
 
Despite advances in technology and the degradation of the industry, this profession still requires extreme attention to detail, technical knowledge, and good judgement. Having the discipline to thoroughly review a maintenance logbook for MELs after six legs and three aircraft swaps warrants a high degree of professionalism.

That being said, any moron who looks down upon any profession (e.g., bus driving) isn't worth speaking to.
 
What do you think we are? The days of "fate is the hunter" are over, your entire purpose is to transport people and things from point A to point B at a high rate of speed. If you cost too much, you'll be replaced, if they could, they'd replace you with a computer, or at least figure out some way to pay you less. Bus driver? More like videostore clerk, or pizza delivery boy...

Well the same holds true for every profession. More and more engineers are using computers to automate everything. Surgeons have robots to complete complex surgeries. That doesn't make them mindless drones that just sit passively by as "George does it". We, as professionals, still have to have a level of competence and the wherewithal to fly in a very intricate, fast changing environment. I take offense to anyone who likens me to someone who mindlessly punches buttons on a cash register all day.
 
What do you think we are? The days of "fate is the hunter" are over, your entire purpose is to transport people and things from point A to point B at a high rate of speed. If you cost too much, you'll be replaced, if they could, they'd replace you with a computer, or at least figure out some way to pay you less. Bus driver? More like videostore clerk, or pizza delivery boy...

I do understand that you seem to be talking from a management prospective though.
 
Nice analogy:-)
I had a friend that told me that he didn't want to do any weight training with me at the gym because he wanted to lean up not blow up like some meathead. Like he was going to do one too many reps by mistake and look like he is on steroids. The dude was built like Kermit D Frog, he wasn't at risk of overdoing it. It is easy to underestimate the commitment required to accomplish something that you haven't attempted.
 
When I first started working for USAir in 1999 -- my first major airline job and the brass ring I had been working towards for my entire life -- I was based in LaGuardia on the DC9 flying the shuttle. (It was an interim airplane between the 727 and A320 that they had there). DCA-LGA-BOS-LGA-DCA-LGA-BOS-LGA... all day. Every day. Unless you were sitting in a chair on airport standby.

It felt a lot like being a bus driver. Words are an interesting thing. Improper use... or use without thought can hurt even when they don't intend to. I think this may have been one of those cases.

Yes, flying for a living requires years of training and a high degree of knowledge, skill, and understanding. We operate these machines in a hostile environment - not only environmentally but also regulatory. The complexities of our job go far beyond the ability to safely fly the airplane. But, make no mistake, at the end of the day we are public transportation.

You in your airliner. Me in my business jet. Our only function is to act as a time machine. We reduce the amount of time it takes to get passengers and/or freight from point A to point B. The same trip could likely be made on bus, or train, or ocean liner, or dogsled. They choose aviation because it saves them time. So in that respect we ARE bus drivers.

But should that realization decrease your pride in what you've accomplished? Or your passion for the work that you do? I don't think so. I have no doubt that there are workers in every industry who share that passion. There are Greyhound bus drivers who are proud to drive their bus. There are cashiers who take pride in the "employee of the month" title and who strive for excellence every day at their job. How many semi-truck drivers are proud of the awards they receive after a million miles without an accident? They don't care that people look down upon them because they have pride in themselves.

A few months ago I was flying to Orlando with my family when I got to chatting with an RJ pilot on the train between terminals. He saw my FSI luggage tag and asked what I flew... who I flew for. I told him and he asked me when I was going to start applying to the regionals. His view was that a Learjet was a stepping stone to the regional jet. I didn't tell him that I made about four times his salary, or that I had flown the RJ years before, or even that I probably had more total time taxiing than he did flying. I don't need to prove myself to a stranger (except for you folks on JC). I just shrugged and said "maybe one day". Because i've been in this industry long enough to know that maybe one day I will find myself in that situation again. I hope not. Continuously going backwards in your career is a huge blow to the ego - believe me, I know. But, at the end of the day I fly airplanes. It's all i've ever done and with a little luck it's all I'll ever do. I move people between point A and point B in a metal tube, at high speed.

I'm a bus driver ... not that there's anything wrong with that. :)
 
Agree. Its all in the perspective. And taking pride in what you do and where you are is key to maintaining a positive perspective in an industry where things ebb and flow often.
 
I love what I do and wouldn't change a thing regardless of what someone else thinks. Whether or not some ignoramus thinks I'm a glorified bus driver or not is up to them. Once they've made such a statement I've already made a judgment about their character, deemed them not worthy of my time, and could care less what they think.
 
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