PD down to...

As far as the scraping on the chalk board "We're with you", you will probably get a quick lesson in ATC comunication from me and then most likely you will get to try it again. It usually goes something like this, "King Air 12K, we're with you is not in the book. When you check in you need to check in with your call sign, altitude leaving and your assigned altitude. Now lets try that initial call again."

"Sorry sir, say again? You were broken and unreadable." ;)

Sent from outer space using tapatalk!.... DRRROID!
 
"Plenty of room for interpretation and interpolation, if you so choose. So, bottom line, how do the controllers generally feel about it? I've never heard anyone say "Airliner 123, I need you to write down this number for not telling me that you're vacating an altitude." Yet.

I want and am expecting the report leaving an altitude, even if it is 10 minutes later.

As far as the scraping on the chalk board "We're with you", you will probably get a quick lesson in ATC comunication from me and then most likely you will get to try it again. It usually goes something like this, "King Air 12K, we're with you is not in the book. When you check in you need to check in with your call sign, altitude leaving and your assigned altitude. Now lets try that initial call again."

This is a joke, right?
 
I want and am expecting the report leaving an altitude, even if it is 10 minutes later.

As far as the scraping on the chalk board "We're with you", you will probably get a quick lesson in ATC comunication from me and then most likely you will get to try it again. It usually goes something like this, "King Air 12K, we're with you is not in the book. When you check in you need to check in with your call sign, altitude leaving and your assigned altitude. Now lets try that initial call again."

This is a joke, right?

I'll bet he's popular with QA and the NATCA pro stans....
 
I find that my phraseology suffers when I'm in an unfamiliar "new" airplane, or doing something I've never done before. Phraseology is 3rd on the list, after aviating and navigating. Someone tells me to "try the initial call again," because they think they need to play radio professor, and chances are I'm going to cancel IFR if I can. But I'm NOT, going to do it over again, my response will be something like, "unable, and by the way, am I radar contact yet?"
 
Jesus, I thought I was an anal controller....

If I nailed a pilot everytime he said with you, or any other non-standard phraseology, I'd have no time to control...
 
Joke's on you guys. I get paid specifically NOT to touch an airplane. Sup now!

...actually, I don't think I even meet the currency requirements to apply to most other airlines. :)
 
Jesus, I thought I was an anal controller....

If I nailed a pilot everytime he said with you, or any other non-standard phraseology, I'd have no time to control...

Amen

After reading this guys "extensive" post history he claims to work at ATL TRACON (A80), which tells me he is either heavy on the sarcasm or full of internet machismo BS. If he really does care enough to correct that BS or have time to do it, I am 99% sure he is a Stupidvisor who gets his time only at the easiest scopes and slowest times, because A80 is no joke.






My policy with pilots: I am going to cut you all the slack I possibly can because at some point I am going to need a little back, maybe not from you but from somebody on frequency that heard me cut you slack and might appreciate it.
 
My policy with pilots: I am going to cut you all the slack I can possibly can because at some point I am going to need a little back, maybe not from you but from somebody on frequency that heard me give you slack and might appreciate it.

I can attest to this. He had to deal with my retarded antics for months and never violated me. :bandit:
 
Sad thing is many of the instructors at the ATC Academy say and teach "with you" on initial call. So waves of new controllers are coming who are expecting it! I tried to snuff it in my class; we'll see.

It is in many of the en route CBIs as well.
 
how bout "n1234 CHECKING IN level 5000"

i avoid saying checking in, or even level. it's just usually "n1234 (epic pause) 5000"
 
I request all altimeter settings read to me in millibars and all of them to be QFE.






:)
 
Tonight, at the end of the ATIS, it said, "Advise on initial contact that you have a papa."

Oh I totally checked in and confirmed that I have a Papa.
 
Ha!


Long story short, personally, unless it affects safety or is slowing me down, I don't care if you read me your eharmony profile when checking in... JUST ANSWER THE RADIO WHEN I CALL YOU ;)
 
Overheard on Moncton Center:

"Oh me? Black pants... epaulets... clip-on tie, what are YOU wearin'?" :)
 
Ha!


Long story short, personally, unless it affects safety or is slowing me down, I don't care if you read me your eharmony profile when checking in... JUST ANSWER THE RADIO WHEN I CALL YOU ;)
"Air Carrier 123, Los Angeles Center."

"Air Carrier 123, Los Angeles Center."

"Uh, Center, say again for Air Carrier 123, I was on the landline."
 
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