You're the FO...

State the GA firmly, by the book then do what you can to help, maybe quit talking it he is clearly just gonna ignore you and land it. That point, be on your toes, but wouldn't recommend fighting over the stick.
When you get on the ground, and parked, , I would probably make a really forceful case, and then be prepared to get the bags together. I finally resolved to my satisfaction flying with a cowboycito, and said I may not be the right fo for him, and we acted like adults, and things got better.

FWIW, it is a tough decision, and I think every pilot in either seat was hired to be mature and work for a solution. You live and learn.

The other issue about possible discapcitation, I think I would try to determine really quick if he wasn't responding, and hit the toga advance the thrust and just do it.
 
Pretty straight forward like everyone else said:

1: Call the Go-Around. Announce it on the radio.
2: If the CA decides to keep going and is cognizant, help him/her land the plane. Fighting about it that low to the ground would make things worse not better.

Once on the ground, I would be right to the CPs office.
 
Make sure you scream, "what's a monkey doing in the cockpit," into the CVR right before you impact if you do choose to fight for flight controls.

Seriously... how long we gonna bump this thing?
 
jynxyjoe said:
Make sure you scream, "what's a monkey doing in the cockpit," into the CVR right before you impact if you do choose to fight for flight controls.

Seriously... how long we gonna bump this thing?
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I heard of a guy who actually flew with monkey bones in his bag, just to confuse the hell out of the investigators.
 
Since people are still bumping this, to some people busting mins is nothing. I've actually been told by someone that its always a good idea to scribble down the field elevation on a post-it when you shoot an ILS to mins and stick it next to the altimeter so that you know when to flare if you don't want to go around. I don't think they were kidding. They were talking 172s and the like mind you, not 121 ops, but still.
 
dasleben said:
Fixed.
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I don't know about this one dasleben.... pro stans shouldn't be involved in safety of flight issues. I would deem it a safety of flight issue if I announced a go around and the other guy flies it onto the runway... in this case the other guy knowing broke some rules and I personally wouldn't fly with him/her at all.
 
You're the FO, and the CA is a US Senator from a small Midwestern state. You're landing at a Texas airport and there appear to be personnel & equipment on a runway marked with large "X's." Oh, wait. Wrong thread. Sorry...
 
Doug Taylor said:
an abundance of pilots that fail to differentiate a SAC mission to lob a nuke at Moscow that literally MUST go or the world is going to end from flying Dallas to El Paso with a 40% load factor and a cargo bin full of crickets.
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Oh, Doug had to go the "military guys" route in this discussion! :)
 
I can't seem to find it now on google but there was an airliner crash in Korea (I think... I seem to remember it as being on Cheju Do), where an expat captain and the Korean FO fought over the controls during landing. It did not turn out well, obviously, or it would not be an accident. So the lesson learned is to not fight for the controls close to the ground unless the other pilot has really wigged out.
Yes, there have been a few 121 mavericks out there who do not believe in following regulations. Anyone who says there are not need only look at some of the recent 121 regional crashes. I think most are former F-15 drivers. (Hmmm... can't seem to find the smileys on this new web format). I ran into a few in my time as an FO... even had one tell me that he did not believe in missed approaches or go-arounds (or checklists for that matter and he also felt the transport cat airplane we flew could have been certified single pilot and I was just extra weight). I think my airline eventually got rid of most of them, but there may still be a few out there or FOs who viewed this as a characteristic to be emulated. How you deal with it in the air is your call but don't make a bad situation worse. Once on the ground you need to have a coming to Jesus with the captain. Next time he goes missed or you talk to the chief pilot (might even want to talk to the chief pilot now as at the captain level this should not be happening). Now if you work for a company where this is accepted and expected you've got a choice to make. Put on your big boy pants and risk being terminated but do the right thing, or be a mouse.
 
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