One Miiiiillion Pounds

seagull said:
Yes, they already had a super jumbo, which, incidentally, virtually EVERYONE said there would be no market for at the time...
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There may not be a market for it.

  • Airbus is in the red on the 380.
  • Every carrier flying the 380 is loosing money on it.
The jury is still out.

Many would say two engines are cheaper than four and smaller aircraft are easier to fill.

Both the A350 and the B787 may be the death blow to the A380.
 
fholbert said:
As a frequent flyer with over 3.3 million miles I always tried to rescheduled when I was booked on an Airbus. The few times I rode an Airbus were not pleasant. Blame the seating on the airline but the noise level was awful.
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Which Airbus type did you find the noise level to be awful in?

I find the A-320 series to be superior in the cabin when compared to the B-737 and B-757. More spacious and quieter. The 757-300 is particularly miserable in the last 10ish rows, with a dutch roll feeling every few minutes in cruise.

I find the A-330 series to be superior to the B-767 in the cabin as well, for the same reasons.
 
fholbert said:
I don't know. I don't see Boeing making new jumbo jet designs. Modifying a 40 year old design isn't new territory.
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I agree -- it is impressive to see them take an airframe that was designed in the early 1960s and modify it to compete with a jet that was built in 2000.

Same with the 737. Somehow, 40 years later, it's been tweaked so that carriers have a tough decision to make between it and the A-320.
 
fholbert said:
As a frequent flyer with over 3.3 million miles I always tried to rescheduled when I was booked on an Airbus. The few times I rode an Airbus were not pleasant. Blame the seating on the airline but the noise level was awful.
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With the number of airlines flying them, good luck getting anywhere. There's a few planes I prefer over others because of things like noise, comfort, etc, but if it gets me where I'm going I couldn't care less.
 
Everyone I've spoken to who has Airbus experience has really enjoyed it.

That said, the barking dogs from the PTU during a single-engine taxi gets old when you're sitting in the back. :D
 
fholbert said:
As a frequent flyer with over 3.3 million miles I always tried to rescheduled when I was booked on an Airbus. The few times I rode an Airbus were not pleasant. Blame the seating on the airline but the noise level was awful.
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Those must have been 3.3M miserable miles.
The only flaw the A330 and A340 MIGHT suffer, as pax, are the colder zones by the doors. The rest is not even comparable. while I respect patriotism in aircraft manufacturing, Airbus has been stretching airframes since 1977. Not since 1950, and that makes a big difference. If your benchmark is American Airlines beat-to-e 75's and 76's then I'm very sorry for you.
Totally irrelevant comparison, and don't even get me started on the 787. Of course if you think the 380 is an underachievement, maybe you should spend less time on this forum and more time flying the modern airliners out there.
 
I could understand pilots arguing over preferring to fly a 737 over an A320, but pilots saying they won't fly as a passenger on an airplane because its made in Europe? What?

I can see why kids on a.net who fly once a year would care, but for most of us on this site who travel all the time, I'm shocked anyone cares what kind of airplane they're in more than what kind of seats they're sitting in. Who cares if its Boeing or Airbus, at most airlines who fly both the seats are all gonna be the same anyway. And I say this as a pretty big airplane nerd.
 
JordanD said:
With the number of airlines flying them, good luck getting anywhere. There's a few planes I prefer over others because of things like noise, comfort, etc, but if it gets me where I'm going I couldn't care less.
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It's not hard. Some airlines have few if any Airbus'. I'd book flights that had better meals too. Omelets made to order sure beats a pastry. The FA's get to know you and they see you're taken care of too.

I want a nice seat, nice meal and a pleasant ride. I haven't flown commercial in almost 5 years and miss the travel.
 
One thing you got to give Airbus credit for. Those frickers do float!

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Pilotforhire587 said:
Boeings don't crash when they get struck by lightning! They have real mechanical connections between the controls and the control surfaces...
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I hope you're not referring to fly-by-wire? If so, you might also want to avoid the 777, 787 and any future aircraft Boeing might come out with!
 
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