Talked to Colgan...
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Screaming_Emu
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I had a colgan guy on the jumpseat to DAY the other day (actually a lurker here he said) and he was friggin miserable. Hasn't been there all that long and he said pretty much everyone in their class is trying to get out.
If you want to work there, by all means, apply. But just know what you're getting into.
If you want to work there, by all means, apply. But just know what you're getting into.
bretthullrampage
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Just curious if he gave any details as to why its so unbearable (aside from the pay, schedule, etc.)
Screaming_Emu
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I believe this persons words were "The flying is great, the crews are some of the best people I've ever met, but this is the worst company I have ever worked for."
I could elaborate on some other things he said, but I don't want to make things more difficult for Doug and Kristie to get them to NJC. I know they're working really hard on it.
It could be good for some people. Just do some research and know what you're getting into. Just like any job.
And when you ask, "Doug! How come it's so hard to get recruiters to take the website seriously and show up at your networking events?"
Look no further.
Kristie and I have pretty much spent the last seven months on the telephone, email and physically flying around the country to round up opportunities for you guys and keep in mind, i already have a job and really miss my free time.
If an opportunity is "beneath" you, please do us a favor and not take all our work and throw it under the bus.
I really REALLY miss my free time!
Teller1900
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While you're at it, convince them to send me, with pay, as their rep. to the event in Las Vegas.
Hernandezcfi
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There are some people such as myself that are not miserable at Colgan. Those who are miserable should by all means step aside and find happiness somewhere else.
Screaming_Emu
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And when you ask, "Doug! How come it's so hard to get recruiters to take the website seriously and show up at your networking events?"
Look no further.
Kristie and I have pretty much spent the last seven months on the telephone, email and physically flying around the country to round up opportunities for you guys and keep in mind, i already have a job and really miss my free time.
If an opportunity is "beneath" you, please do us a favor and not take all our work and throw it under the bus.
I really REALLY miss my free time!
Yeah...I thought of that after I hit the send button. Wasn't the time or the place and I apologize.
HVYMETALDRVR
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Well I'll just say thanks Doug. I'm definitely interested and have already applied, hopefully they'll overlook some multi-engine requirements for some turbine experience. Looks like I'll be updating my resume on airlineapps.com! :beer:
Cruise
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You know, there are many of us Colgan types around here! It's funny, everyone loves to bitch about this place. Well, we do have room for improvement; but I've gained a tremendous amount of quality flying experience here. So thanks Colgan!
Also, fact of the matter is, things are improving (or have already improved) dramatically. This is thanks to the many volunteers within the pilot group who donate their time to further interests pilots: both here and within the industry as a whole. (Okay, okay, we had plenty of room for improvement, so it is what it is.) But the Colgan of 6 years ago....is not the Colgan of today.....and certainly isn't going to be the Colgan (Mesaba) of tomorrow. In fact, we're going to be one of the larger regionals in the country (when the mergers are complete) and our contract is shaping up nicely. Say what you will, but many pilots have flown here and moved on to work at most 'legacy' carriers, top tier freight companies, etc...
It's funny, every time I hear people bitching about Colgan, I become less interested in helping those who might want a recommendation. So, by all means, if you're too good to come here, so be it.
@ Doug: Anything you need from us? Let me know if I can help.
Also, fact of the matter is, things are improving (or have already improved) dramatically. This is thanks to the many volunteers within the pilot group who donate their time to further interests pilots: both here and within the industry as a whole. (Okay, okay, we had plenty of room for improvement, so it is what it is.) But the Colgan of 6 years ago....is not the Colgan of today.....and certainly isn't going to be the Colgan (Mesaba) of tomorrow. In fact, we're going to be one of the larger regionals in the country (when the mergers are complete) and our contract is shaping up nicely. Say what you will, but many pilots have flown here and moved on to work at most 'legacy' carriers, top tier freight companies, etc...
It's funny, every time I hear people bitching about Colgan, I become less interested in helping those who might want a recommendation. So, by all means, if you're too good to come here, so be it.
@ Doug: Anything you need from us? Let me know if I can help.
bretthullrampage
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No worries. Colgan is one of the airlines Ive been interested in apply to (once I get my hours) and am simply curious as to both the good and bad things their pilots have to say.
v1valarob
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I live in base and am becoming fairly senior and my miserable level is pretty much non existent now. Going from reserve to line holder is a big factor in that.
FYI... Most Saab new hires are going to out stations. SYR needs a bunch of guys. Most of the out stations are going to be losing a few FOs to upgrade. IAD is essentially "full and staffed" according to planning.
FYI... Most Saab new hires are going to out stations. SYR needs a bunch of guys. Most of the out stations are going to be losing a few FOs to upgrade. IAD is essentially "full and staffed" according to planning.
Goodspeed
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I interviewed at approx 1100tt 135ME, a lot of others at the interview seemed to be around the same times.
Callador
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For those that work there, what are the schedules like (reserve/normal)? If I do apply, I would probably try to live in base, so I don't have to commute. I'm just trying to figure out what the worst/best case scenarios are, concerning number of days flying per month etc.
I currently fly 17 days per month, most of those are full days (13 hrs duty/6.5 flight). I normally fly 12 legs as well, so maybe that is part of the burn out too. Is Colgan a little better than this from a scheduling standpoint?
Thanks in advance for those that can answer.
I currently fly 17 days per month, most of those are full days (13 hrs duty/6.5 flight). I normally fly 12 legs as well, so maybe that is part of the burn out too. Is Colgan a little better than this from a scheduling standpoint?
Thanks in advance for those that can answer.
crazyjaydawg
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I really don't think that they will, I got the call with 1200tt and 70ME. As she was on the phone with me, "oh I see you only have 70ME, as of right now we're only taking people with 100 and above" FWIW that was over a month ago, maybe they'll be lowering that soon. Keep us updated and GL
Their mins are competitive, 1000tt and 100ME. No more than 2 checkride failures or FAA violations. If you have that, you should get an interview.
Cruise
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Starting out on reserve, you can expect 5 on, 2 off....at least for the time being. Once the contract is finalized, that may change.
Most lines of flying vary between 12-16 days off, and 70-85 hours of flying. Really depends on the base. Guarantee is 75 hours for both reserve and line holder.
Living in-base is the way to go if possible. Your QOL will improve dramatically, esp. while on reserve.
Callador
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Thanks, how long are the reserve duty days? How about a normal line, how long is an average day? I know that is an open ended question, since the schedules vary a lot... but just looking for a ballpark idea.
I applied to a few of the regionals as well as some other flying jobs, but I haven't heard anything back. I figured if Colgan was hiring I might give it a shot.