gomntwins
Well-Known Member
That pretty much sums it up great for me.
Had to report two to the FSDO
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That pretty much sums it up great for me.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
It'll also tell you who you shouldn't vouch for when people are looking to move up in aviation.
yoman793
Well-Known Member
Don't mess with OA
After reading the title of this thread I knew it was going to be messy. Didn't think it would blow up this quickly.
And WacoFan, thats just awesome. :yup: Well played sir.
3green
Well-Known Member
I see that there are plenty of hall monitors roaming the skies. Scary thought that there are unpaid FAA employee's among us. There are violations that should be reported and those that don't. Its nice to see that so many pilots trust the FAA to do the right thing when they choose to report a violation <sarcasm>...
As OA's list shows if you've flown long enough you'll have busted something. We all have. For those that say report any violation, if your that ethical and want to have the FAA deal with other pilots errors please feel free to report yourself when you violate the FAR's...
As OA's list shows if you've flown long enough you'll have busted something. We all have. For those that say report any violation, if your that ethical and want to have the FAA deal with other pilots errors please feel free to report yourself when you violate the FAR's...
sr22driver
what had happened was...
Thanks for making me google Summers Eve, I guess that is alot nicer than how I'd put it.
It makes me weap for the new crop of wide body sim pilots.
Orange Anchor
New Member
The mechanics said the air stairs were fine and nothing to write up.
The boom and crew chief said it was partly their fault because they gave the copilot the thumbs up
My instructor came to me and said, "Keep that crap up and you're going to get yourself killed." I never figured out how he learned about it.
Orange Anchor
New Member
Many happened LONG LONG ago. And I said I was sorry. Not enough?
FWIW, I have filled out a wad of NASA ASRSs. When I first went on a highly automated airplane and the software was crap, we missed so many crossing restrictions I went ahead and just filled out a 'master' with the only thing left to fill in was the clearance and the intersection we were high on. And that TOO was a long time ago.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
You can, just preface the story with the proper "One time, at band camp, I heard that my friends' dad who flies for Southern Jets told them..."
Guy
Well-Known Member
That one is okay if it wasn't intentinal or you were solo.
Say three Hail Mary's and put some money in the poor box on the way out.
gomntwins
Well-Known Member
That makes sense! hahaha! It makes me sound like a professional at the same time too!! I liked those American pie movies... if they'd had more nudity they'd been better, but enough to make them good!
It truly is too bad that some people on here don't realize that driving cars and airplanes are the same: even if nobody's watching, you're bound to break a reg or a law. Whether it be speeding a mile an hour over the speed limit or busting a clearance by a knot or 2. There are no perfect drivers nor are there perfect aviators. It sucks, but that's how it is. It doesn't make you a dangerous pilot/driver: it makes you human.
While I may or may not agree that flying and driving are similar, truth be told, I have acutally been driving less and have less experience in a car than I do an airplane. Been flying since my junior year in high school and been driving since the last quarter of my senior year.
pullup
Homewrecker
Orange Anchor
New Member
Truth is I could have easily been Bud Holland's cousin. I then began doing some study, started reading more human factors, read Kern's books and thought, "HEY.. who's opening my mail?!" It wasn't that I couldn't fly. I could. It was just that I enjoyed the extra risks and flying at or just beyond the limits. (once took a tanker to FL430 or higher for *fun* and then had a helluva time getting down. The engines were doing compressor stalls when I tried to pull them to idle and the spoilers were not coming up symmetricially inducing some dutch rolling. It took a long time to slowly pull the throttles to idle and slow down, The Nav was superwhizzed about it. And rightfully so looking back. It was stupid on my part.)
The evolution took some time but I decided to play another game besides coloring outside the lines. I decided to see how close I could fly to the policy, procedures and such. If it said, "landing gear down" I said, "landing gear down" instead of 'gear down' or 'gimme the gear'. It became a game for ME. If others still said 'gimme the gear' I knew what they meant but they were not part of the game. Funny thing is check rides became a walk in the park.
Anyway, it call comes back to culture. A learning culture. Resilient culture. Just culture.
(cue the credits... curtain coming down....
THE END)
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Truth is I could have easily been Bud Holland's cousin. I then began doing some study, started reading more human factors, read Kern's books and thought, "HEY.. who's opening my mail?!" It wasn't that I couldn't fly. I could. It was just that I enjoyed the extra risks and flying at or just beyond the limits. (once took a tanker to FL430 or higher for *fun* and then had a helluva time getting down. The engines were doing compressor stalls when I tried to pull them to idle and the spoilers were not coming up symmetricially inducing some dutch rolling. It took a long time to slowly pull the throttles to idle and slow down, The Nav was superwhizzed about it. And rightfully so looking back. It was stupid on my part.)
The evolution took some time but I decided to play another game besides coloring outside the lines. I decided to see how close I could fly to the policy, procedures and such. If it said, "landing gear down" I said, "landing gear down" instead of 'gear down' or 'gimme the gear'. It became a game for ME. If others still said 'gimme the gear' I knew what they meant but they were not part of the game. Funny thing is check rides became a walk in the park.
Anyway, it call comes back to culture. A learning culture. Resilient culture. Just culture.
(cue the credits... curtain coming down....
Thankfully during my initial training at Horizon, doing things by the flight standards manual and using the same phraseology was pretty much ingrained into us.
Most pilots flew to SOP and usually the only ones who didn't use standard phraseology had been at QX for a very long time (20+ years).
One time on a line check, the check airman became upset because I said "automatic pilot engaged" instead of "autopilot engaged". He laughed it off after I asked him "Did you not know that 'auto' in autopilot was for 'automatic' and not for 'automobile'?"
Minuteman
Moⅾerator
Thanks
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
Who can't love the drunken beagle?
Just be careful, if you get off the couch to grab a beer from the fridge, he will 'DT your seat...