ride 709:anyone?

mxaexm

mxaexm

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Does anyone have any experience with 709 ride? I don't and would like to keep it this way but would like to find out more about your experience.
 
I knew the owner of a 210 that broke the nose gear twice because he didn't understand the concept of a round out and flare.

The inspector that came to do his 709 ride was the POI of our 135 operation. He stopped by the office so he could mark off a "visit" and also borrowed an 8710 for the person taking the 709 ride. He acted as if it was more trouble than it was worth to give someone a 709 ride because they are only looking at what they consider to be deficient; in this case, the guy's landings.

The pilot did a couple of bunny hops on the first landing because he landed on the nose wheel. The second and third were acceptable, and they taxied back to the hangar. Ride over. The guy kept his ticket.
 
mxaexm said:
Does anyone have any experience with 709 ride? I don't and would like to keep it this way but would like to find out more about your experience.
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Never had one, heard that depending upon the reason, they can be fairly brutal, but if its just a simple deficiency, and the POI or inspector doing the ride isn't a complete ass, then it'll probably be fairly straight forward.

What might have brought this on?
 
only 2 or 3, they were never that bad.

First one was because i landed on a "closed" runway that wasnt really a runway. i think the other was because a CFI saw me do a slip with my flaps extended, also accused me of running the engine over-square, and being reckless cause i cancelled my IFR in the air.
 
Ask Jerry, or better yet, do a search for it on the forum. I mean, it's already posted it all over the place here anyway......not like it's OPSEC or anything.
 
cmill said:
only 2 or 3, they were never that bad.

First one was because i landed on a "closed" runway that wasnt really a runway. i think the other was because a CFI saw me do a slip with my flaps extended, also accused me of running the engine over-square, and being reckless cause i cancelled my IFR in the air.
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How could someone get 709'ed for slipping with flaps? It's not reccomended on most aircraft, but nowhere (atleast in Cessna's 150/172 POH) does it say slips with falps are prohibited.:dunno:
 
mxaexm said:
Does anyone have any experience with 709 ride? I don't and would like to keep it this way but would like to find out more about your experience.
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And while we're at it, does anyone have information about keeping employment at GoJet a secret? I don't fly for them or anything, and I'd like to keep it that way, but I'd just like to find out more about y'alls experience.



:D

:sarcasm:
 
A150K said:
How could someone get 709'ed for slipping with flaps? It's not reccomended on most aircraft, but nowhere (atleast in Cessna's 150/172 POH) does it say slips with falps are prohibited.:dunno:
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Hmmm shoulda put a sarcasm tag in there, lol. While we're at it, ive never had a 709 ride. haha.
 
They can be for any number of reasons. Often they follow an accident or pilot deviation. Sometimes an instructor will receive one for an event in which his or her student was involved.

Typically, the 709 will only be for part of the PTS, and that will be made known to the airman in advance when they receive the letter.

It isn't fun, but it isn't something to be feared if the airman can perform to PTS standards.
 
cmill said:
only 2 or 3, they were never that bad.

First one was because i landed on a "closed" runway that wasnt really a runway. i think the other was because a CFI saw me do a slip with my flaps extended, also accused me of running the engine over-square, and being reckless cause i cancelled my IFR in the air.
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I got it. :beer: And I LOL'ed.
 
Robyn S. Sclair used to work out at Mesaba, crews and training finally complained enough they 709'ed her and she somehow passed. She later got hired at ATA, got fired because she never disclosed the 709, then plowed in a DC-10 or MD-11 or whatever th heck it is for Fedex at Memphis back in late '03. At the time of the crash she was getting a company eval for something she'd screwed up.

709's follow you around, make you the ridicule of everyone, and aviation is so small no one ever forgets. Obviously 709's don't always result in your license being pulled, as in the case of Sclair, but when it get's to a 709 it's bad.

YMMV
 
long time posting on JC.

The flight school I attended in Florida, one of the instructors had a 709 ride. if i could remember exactly why..i think it was due to the pass/fail rates for signing students off on their CFI initials. i think he like a 40% pass rate or something low along those numbers. i think he probably still works their, but i am not going to put any names out there. although this was about two to three years ago.
 
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