Your biggest aviation pet peeves..
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troopernflight
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Pilots who like to hear themselves on the radio.
Pilots who act like a-holes when you try to strike up a conversation in the pilot's lounge.
Pilot's who give attitude to ATC over something simple.
Pilot's who don't answer ATC 3 times, and then claim to have "radio issues".
Pilot's who fly a C-172 like they are flying a 747.
Pilots who act like a-holes when you try to strike up a conversation in the pilot's lounge.
Pilot's who give attitude to ATC over something simple.
Pilot's who don't answer ATC 3 times, and then claim to have "radio issues".
Pilot's who fly a C-172 like they are flying a 747.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Pilots:
who immediately introduced themselves as pilots. "As el capitan I chose were people sit, so you're needed in the back, as far away from me as possible. As a pilot you should be well aware of weight and balance..." If I want you up front with me, I'll ask politely if you want to be up front, don't assume it.
who think that there is only one way to fly. Guess what, a 172 doesn't fly like an RJ that does fly like a Super Cub. Just because you have "over a thousand hours in a 172", doesn't mean you can fly.
who think that their own minimums should be everyone's minimums. Guess what, if you don't want to fly when it's 500' and 3 miles, grab a cup of coffee. I'll be fueling my plane.
who immediately introduced themselves as pilots. "As el capitan I chose were people sit, so you're needed in the back, as far away from me as possible. As a pilot you should be well aware of weight and balance..." If I want you up front with me, I'll ask politely if you want to be up front, don't assume it.
who think that there is only one way to fly. Guess what, a 172 doesn't fly like an RJ that does fly like a Super Cub. Just because you have "over a thousand hours in a 172", doesn't mean you can fly.
who think that their own minimums should be everyone's minimums. Guess what, if you don't want to fly when it's 500' and 3 miles, grab a cup of coffee. I'll be fueling my plane.
Outlaw2097
New Member
1...The general public and their infinite 'wisdom' on how airlines, airplanes, and airports work.
2...Calling a runway 'the active' at an uncontrolled field.
3...The fact that since I went to Riddle, the need to descibe myself as a non d-bag pilot is immediate.
2...Calling a runway 'the active' at an uncontrolled field.
3...The fact that since I went to Riddle, the need to descibe myself as a non d-bag pilot is immediate.
moxiepilot
Well-Known Member
My personality dictates my pet peeves.
I prefer clear, concise, by the pilot controller glossery terms when possible. But that's just me; so, any pilot who's got 'em on the fish finder and has a two minute CTAF call is far too verbose.
People who call UNICOM for what runway is "active" at a non-controlled field. You're the darn PIC, act like it! If everyone is using a runway with a tail wind, are you going to use it just because you asked, or didn't listen to the weather?
Oooh. Wifey is up. Gotta go.
I prefer clear, concise, by the pilot controller glossery terms when possible. But that's just me; so, any pilot who's got 'em on the fish finder and has a two minute CTAF call is far too verbose.
People who call UNICOM for what runway is "active" at a non-controlled field. You're the darn PIC, act like it! If everyone is using a runway with a tail wind, are you going to use it just because you asked, or didn't listen to the weather?
Oooh. Wifey is up. Gotta go.
trafficinsight
Well-Known Member
I ask what runway is in use so that I can plan ahead... You'd annoy the crap out of me if you barged into the pattern opposite direction because you didn't plan ahead and "you're the PIC."
BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
ATC: Cessna 1234A Say altitude
Captain redundant: 5 thousand at this time
At this time? Can't you just say 5 thousand? What does at this time mean anyway. Could something be happening at a different time?
ATC: Cessna 1234A Hold short runway 18R
Captain redundant: Holding short runway 18R in sequence
Wait so who at the control tower told you what the sequence is? What is the sequence? What are you talking about?
Captain redundant: 5 thousand at this time
At this time? Can't you just say 5 thousand? What does at this time mean anyway. Could something be happening at a different time?
ATC: Cessna 1234A Hold short runway 18R
Captain redundant: Holding short runway 18R in sequence
Wait so who at the control tower told you what the sequence is? What is the sequence? What are you talking about?
WacoFan
Bigly
I was about to go off then saw this followup. I've had a revolving stutter since I was 3 that tends to get worse under stress...(ie public speaking, interviews, ordering a beer at the bar when it's loud... etc), but when I'm in an airplane, no problems what so ever.
If you do happen upon a person with a stutter, please know we don't do it on purpose, and that we're extrememly self conscious and probably already hate ourselves because of it.
As for pet peeves? Pilots who get hired before me.
Hey man - good for you for coming out like that and discussing your problem. Serious kudo's for that, and for overcoming your challenges and not letting them hold you back. Stuttering can be really debilitating for some people and I'm always very conscious of this. Actually I joke. When I encounter a person that stutters and I see they are getting visably flustered I smile at them, point to my cochlear implants and say something like "We are sure a pair to draw to - you can't speak and I can't hear!" That usually creates laughter and actually helps. As you said - anyone that mistreats a stutterer is an asshat.
scooter2525
Very well Member
Hear CAP call up ground and request taxi "to the active with tango". Made me laugh. Out loud.
ozziecat35
4 out of 5 great lakes prefer Michigan.
I knew I liked you...:beer:
It's weird man, I can go months on end without stuttering once, and then a bad day at the office or a fight with my wife, and I'm back to square one. I usually stutter when trying to retell a story, tell jokes, or seemingly anything already in existence. If I'm just spouting off my own bs during a casual conversation, I'm normally fine. The exception here is at bars trying to a. order a drink, or b. have a convo over the music and noise. I guess having to shout and being hyper sensitive to what's coming out of my mouth is part of the issue. Luckily I married an incredible woman who knows how to calm me down and give me certain cues to calm down during these awkward scenarios.
Amazing that it's never been an issue when flying. That was always a fear of mine that in an emergency in the air I'd lock up...
It's also a big reason why I've never pursued the ATC route. I assume I'd be ok along the same lines as when I'm flying, but I'm afraid of killing a planeful of Grandma's & Grandpa's cause I couldn't manage a deal.
WacoFan
Bigly
Sounds like you have it well under control. And - you are in good company: http://www.stutteringhelp.org/portals/english/18_famous_people_2008.pdf
AirmetTango
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I ask what runway is in use so that I can plan ahead... You'd annoy the crap out of me if you barged into the pattern opposite direction because you didn't plan ahead and "you're the PIC."
I used to work at an FBO where it was strickly verboten for the UNICOM operator to respond to a pilot's "active runway" request with a runway number for liability reasons. The response was supposed to include current winds and other pertinent info, but we were never to imply the pilot was supposed to use a particular runway. The idea is, you can "plan ahead" and make appropriate PIC decisions based on the wind information and the traffic situation alone, coupled with preflight planning.
I disagree with asking the UNICOM for the active runway...at best, I'd ask UNICOM for the current winds if an ASOS/AWOS wasn't available, and then only if weather wasn't available from a nearby airfield. Frankly, without automated weather, I'd sooner check wind direction by looking at the wind sock or the wind pattern on trees/water/fields before trusting any response from UNICOM. No offense to the folks on the ground - some are very knowledgeable, but some are clueless, and the problem is you can't tell the difference from 10 miles out at couple thousand feet over the radio. IMO, there are a multitude of other ways to "plan ahead" without cluttering the UNICOM/CTAF with a conversation about the weather and landing direction.
I've never asked UNICOM for an "active runway", and extremely rarely asked them for wind information (though it's occasionally volunteered at some fields). Been able to plan ahead just fine, and I've yet to barge into a pattern the wrong way or land with an unintentional tailwind
FlySooner9
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i think its fairly important to ask someone what runway is active if its a calm wind situation. Or if its busy enough you could just listen to the traffic.
AirmetTango
Well-Known Member
But, if it's calm and no one is around (on radio, or visually), it really isn't important which runway you select as PIC, IMO. Of course, this assumes that this is your intended destination, and you did your preflight planning, so you know in advance whether there is a preferred calm wind runway, right? I can understand asking, if that makes you more comfortable, on a calm wind day with absolutely no traffic, and it's not your intended destination.
granlistillo
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A rare occurrence but flying with someone with something "to prove".