MikeD A-10 question

ppragman

ppragman

No pasa nada.
Quick que' for ya, the A-10's got some very "squarish" wings, does it have the stall characteristics of the more traditional hershey-bar wing, i.e. fairly aggressive buffet before the break, or does it do something totally different because of the taper towards the tips (like a cessna wing?)
 
ppragman said:
Quick que' for ya, the A-10's got some very "squarish" wings, does it have the stall characteristics of the more traditional hershey-bar wing, i.e. fairly aggressive buffet before the break, or does it do something totally different because of the taper towards the tips (like a cessna wing?)
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A-10 stalls with the basic charastics of most straight-wing planes I've flown. Minor differences include the Hog having inboard leading edge slats used to help prevent engine airflow disturbance (a longtime problem with the A-10 in high AOA, uncoordinated flight), as well as decelerons instead of simple ailerons.
 
MikeD said:
A-10 stalls with the basic charastics of most straight-wing planes I've flown. Minor differences include the Hog having inboard leading edge slats as well as decelerons instead of simple ailerons.
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Cool, thanks, just curious! How do the slats pop out, hydraulic?
 
ppragman said:
Cool, thanks, just curious! How do the slats pop out, hydraulic?
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Yes, with electrical input from the lift transducer. One drawback was that while the slats were for helping reduce engine disturbance, they also dampened impending stall indications for the pilot to recognize.
 
MikeD said:
Yes, with electrical input from the lift transducer. One drawback was that while the slats were for helping reduce engine disturbance, they also dampened impending stall indications for the pilot to recognize.
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Thanks. That seems like it would be kind of sketchy though. Especially down low in high g turns.
 
ppragman said:
Thanks. That seems like it would be kind of sketchy though. Especially down low in high g turns.
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Thats why you have to be on your game down low with high SA as to what state the jet is in and how you're controlling it, lest you become a mort.

Even at altitude, the engine disturbance zone is nothing to play around with.
 
MikeD said:
Thats why you have to be on your game down low with high SA as to what state the jet is in and how you're controlling it, lest you become a mort.

Even at altitude, the engine disturbance zone is nothing to play around with.
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Damn, that sounds like a cool airplane.

Do you guys drop flaps and the like in the turns, or is that automated?
 
Hey Mike, how's it feel to go from flying a real weapons platform to 500 spinning pieces of life limited crap?

It's crap, Daf, just like you!

I wish I hadn't missed Vegas, then I could have gotten busting your balls out of my system then.
 
I always loved the clam shell ailerons on the A-10. I use to do line service in KPSM (Portsmouth, NH) and we would get some NG guys from Mass all the time, they we're really cool to watch, and I love the engine noise during spool up, when that nice deep bass kicked in. I also got to go on top of one and had to help the pilot do something I think he called a soap test, I think he took a sample of engine oil or something. Cool birds.
 
The ducting is a bit different, so of course the tonality is a bit different. Overall it's definitely a similar sound.
 
jtrain609 said:
Hey Mike, how's it feel to go from flying a real weapons platform to 500 spinning pieces of life limited crap?

It's crap, Daf, just like you!

I wish I hadn't missed Vegas, then I could have gotten busting your balls out of my system then.
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LOL! It's definitely different managing a machine that's constantly trying to kill you now, but is still somewhat docile!

The decelerons as so-named due to the dual function of the ailerons, which split open to become speed brakes.

The TF-34 is essentially a lower powered CF-34 without the reversers. So I suppose we fly with a "regional engine" :D
 
falconvalley said:
A-10 pilots do SOAP's?? I'm impressed! :D
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Some know how to, but they're the minority. We'd get the SOAP/JOAP kits along with bird on XCs. So long as I could get to the top of the jet, I could pop the oil caps inside the topside cowling, and take the sample. Most all bases have SOAP analysis availability even for transient aircraft.
 
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