Spinning a G1000?

TXaviator said:
did someone say acro thread?

:insane::beer::cool:
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thats what I'm thinkin :rawk:

I've done falling leaves and spins without a chute... am I too dangerous? :D

I would honestly have to say that pulling 4 g's in a Cessna really doesn't seem like a great idea. Some aerobatic aircraft don't even really like that. They may be rated up to +12/-7 but still, getting into that much of a pull it would be smart to have an aircraft that at least can fly upside down in case you end up in and inverted spin.
 
CN94559 said:
thats what I'm thinkin :rawk:

I've done falling leaves and spins without a chute... am I too dangerous? :D

I would honestly have to say that pulling 4 g's in a Cessna really doesn't seem like a great idea. Some aerobatic aircraft don't even really like that. They may be rated up to +12/-7 but still, getting into that much of a pull it would be smart to have an aircraft that at least can fly upside down in case you end up in and inverted spin.
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That's right. You're dangerous. :teathchomp:

Unusual attitudes are required by regulations, no need for a chute if the application is for that demonstration. Just like you don't need them for your spins even though your 80 degrees nose down.
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How is you doing multiple 360s at 70+ degrees bank teaching Unusual Attitudes? That may be streching the intent of the reg a little bit.
 
CN94559 said:
thats what I'm thinkin :rawk:

I've done falling leaves and spins without a chute... am I too dangerous? :D

I would honestly have to say that pulling 4 g's in a Cessna really doesn't seem like a great idea. Some aerobatic aircraft don't even really like that. They may be rated up to +12/-7 but still, getting into that much of a pull it would be smart to have an aircraft that at least can fly upside down in case you end up in and inverted spin.
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yeah man, theres no way im taking my work plane and trusting it to +4 even if i know it *should* be able to handle it....

the super d on the other hand.... ill gladly take a crotch ratcheting in exchange for a good time :rotfl:

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TXaviator said:
yeah man, theres no way im taking my work plane and trusting it to +4 even if i know it *should* be able to handle it....

the super d on the other hand.... ill gladly take a crotch ratcheting in exchange for a good time :rotfl:

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Exactly. Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. My momma told me that one :D

TXaviator said:
mcdonalds, after acro = im lovin it.

mcdonalds, before acro = im not lovin it.
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correction,

McDonalds after acro = I'm lovin it

McDonalds before acro = I'm lovin it, then you fly, and you know, it just doesn't taste as good that second time.
 
correction,

McDonalds after acro = I'm lovin it

McDonalds before acro = I'm lovin it, now I'm lovin it again.
 
jrh said:
I said "rigorous aerobatics" but that doesn't necessarily mean spins ;)

Of course now that you mention it, I think the Texan IIs have glass cockpits as well, don't they?
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The T-38Cs regularly pull 6-7Gs and sustain it, and even have rapid-onset G from positive to negative G.

In addition, they have some pretty aggressive roll rates. (And students sometimes land them REALLLLLLY HAAARD).

There are no problems with the avionics due to these forces and accelerations.
 
Hacker15e said:
The T-38Cs regularly pull 6-7Gs and sustain it, and even have rapid-onset G from positive to negative G.

In addition, they have some pretty aggressive roll rates. (And students sometimes land them REALLLLLLY HAAARD).

There are no problems with the avionics due to these forces and accelerations.
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Do you know if there is any diff between military used avionics and civilian? Of course there is in your high tech planes, but isn't the T-38 what you use for training?
 
shdw said:
Do you know if there is any diff between military used avionics and civilian? Of course there is in your high tech planes, but isn't the T-38 what you use for training?
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Unfortunately, I don't know in this case.

In general I'd have to say that the avionics made for military aircraft are probably more hearty than civil avionics. This was definitely true in the 1980s and early 1990s, especially for aircraft that required "nuclear hardening", etc.

The T-38C's avionics suite, however, was pieced together from off-the-shelf equipment. Much of it came from Israel. Some of it came from companies that use the same equipment on other (civil) aircraft.
 
To get back to spins, there was a video, once upon a time, of a twin in a spin. Has anyone seen it since or know where it is? I saw it in a CFI office next to mine one day then never asked where to find it, or remembered that CFI's name.

Anyone got a hint as to where it is?

In exchange, here are some great gyroscope videos.

7 and 18 are awesome http://www.gyroscopes.org/1974lecture.asp
 
ProudPilot said:
To get back to spins, there was a video, once upon a time, of a twin in a spin. Has anyone seen it since or know where it is? I saw it in a CFI office next to mine one day then never asked where to find it, or remembered that CFI's name.

Anyone got a hint as to where it is?
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That was back in the day when I was a CFI for the CIA's twice prop spin training photo taking in order to dodge bullets while snapping pictures and if I told you its whereabouts I'ds have to kills ya.
 
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Edit: Was figuring out youtube link.

Found this on my computer, thought I had deleted it. This was an already crappy gyro that would occasionally tumble from regular steep turns. So I decided to take it through a series of steep turns (only to 60 this time) and see what it would do. Aircraft: c152
 
shdw said:
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Edit: Was figuring out youtube link.

Found this on my computer, thought I had deleted it. This was an already crappy gyro that would occasionally tumble from regular steep turns. So I decided to take it through a series of steep turns (only to 60 this time) and see what it would do. Aircraft: c152
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hahahaha!!!

I had that happen to me on my type ride (CE500). Spent the entire time doing approaches looking across the panel. What fun.

-mini
 
I've done a spin entry and MAYBE one turn in a G1000 172. It can tumble the AHRS, but unlike the Avidyne, the G1000 will self-right in the air so long as you hold the wings reasonably level. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
Roger said:
I've done a spin entry and MAYBE one turn in a G1000 172. It can tumble the AHRS, but unlike the Avidyne, the G1000 will self-right in the air so long as you hold the wings reasonably level. I wouldn't worry about it.
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The Avidyne will align in the air, as long as you've got some time on your hands. And some really smooth air.
 
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