A question for furloughed pilots

CRJDriver said:
You resign like any other job, by putting in a written resignation notice to the Chief Pilot's office. If you get hired by a new company while on furlough, some companies make you resign your seniority number, that way you won't bail on them if recall time comes around. Other than that, there is no reason to resign. I can not resign my number, otherwise I would lose my unemployment benefits.
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That's interesting.

When you say "If you get hired by a new company while on furlough," presumably you mean by another airline?

If you are furloughed and get hired on as a CFI somewhere, or say by a 135 operator, would they require the resignation as well?

Also, what would prevent someone from finding another job at another airline while on furlough and not submitting their resignation (Let's say they fake submitting it).

Who checks it out and follows it up?
 
X-Forces said:
That's interesting.

When you say "If you get hired by a new company while on furlough," presumably you mean by another airline?

If you are furloughed and get hired on as a CFI somewhere, or say by a 135 operator, would they require the resignation as well?

Also, what would prevent someone from finding another job at another airline while on furlough and not submitting their resignation (Let's say they fake submitting it).

Who checks it out and follows it up?
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You getting furloughed or is someone who is on furlough want to get hired to instruct?
 
X-Forces said:
That's interesting.

When you say "If you get hired by a new company while on furlough," presumably you mean by another airline?

If you are furloughed and get hired on as a CFI somewhere, or say by a 135 operator, would they require the resignation as well?

Also, what would prevent someone from finding another job at another airline while on furlough and not submitting their resignation (Let's say they fake submitting it).

Who checks it out and follows it up?
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Not every company requires you to resign, in fact a lot of them don't care, however there are a few airlines and 135 companies. I think Mesaba required people to resign, and from what Ive heard you sign some sort of form on the first day of groundschool.
 
CRJDriver said:
Not every company requires you to resign, in fact a lot of them don't care, however there are a few airlines and 135 companies. I think Mesaba required people to resign, and from what Ive heard you sign some sort of form on the first day of groundschool.
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And at least a few airlines ignore those mandatory resignations from their furloughed pilots.
 
X-Forces said:
If you are furloughed and get hired on as a CFI somewhere, or say by a 135 operator, would they require the resignation as well?

Also, what would prevent someone from finding another job at another airline while on furlough and not submitting their resignation (Let's say they fake submitting it).

Who checks it out and follows it up?
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I don't think a flight school would expect you to resign your seniority. Then again, I wouldn't know since I can't even find a local part-time CFI job to supplement my unemployment. Personally, if any place that isn't a definite step up in some way from where I'm furloughed from asks me to resign mine, I'm out the door or off the phone before they even finish the sentence. I'd rather end up working at burger king when my unemployment runs out and hold out for a recall than give up my recall rights just for the sake of flying something. It's a huge gamble, but that is the decision I've made for right now and I'm willing to live with the consequences just for the chance of going back to what I had. I've turned down two potential jobs so far because of it, and if for some reason I never get recalled, I'm probably going to be kicking myself in the ass. :bandit:
 
EatSleepFly said:
I'd rather end up working at burger king when my unemployment runs out and hold out for a recall than give up my recall rights just for the sake of flying something. It's a huge gamble, but that is the decision I've made for right now and I'm willing to live with the consequences just for the chance of going back to what I had. I've turned down two potential jobs so far because of it, and if for some reason I never get recalled, I'm probably going to be kicking myself in the ass. :bandit:
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I'd say it's a good choice. I've never had a potential employer ask me to give up my seniority number yet but unless it's a step up or at least a lateral move I wouldn't accept it either.

The way I look at it, I already have a seniority number at an airline where there will be mass applications when the hiring starts again, so why give it up in the first place when I can just ride out the storm? It's gona be a long winter :cool:
 
Clocks said:
And at least a few airlines ignore those mandatory resignations from their furloughed pilots.
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Agreed since their legality is highly questionable and mostly unenforceable.

While I can completely understand why an operator wouldn't want to put time and money into training a pilot only to see them quit and return to their old job, my small understanding of labor law says they can't really make you do it.

That said, if they tell you to do it and you sign a statement saying you did but didn't, then they could fire you for lying, but not for failure to resign. Could a lawyer force them to rehire you with back pay due to a (possibly) illegal action of forcing you to resign? Probably, but who wants to go through the hassle?

This isn't quite honest, but it cuts out the Mickey Mouse crap: Go to your Chief Pilot, CP secretary or whomever you know and trust best, offer him/her your resignation but ask them to sit on it for a couple days while you think it over. Get the job, come back and pull the letter. Yes, it's a chicken s**t way to handle a chicken s**t problem. Anyone else have a better idea?
 
SteveC said:
You forgot to vote in the poll?

http://forums.jetcareers.com/forum-tech-support/93166-post-edit-tag-discussion-moved.html

:D
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Doug Taylor said:
http://forums.jetcareers.com/forum-tech-support/93166-post-edit-tag-discussion-moved.html
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