Question about an x/c

DPApilot said:
I think you've misread a lot of this

For the bold, I don't believe he is. And according to what TGrayson pulled up, he wouldnt be able to as a Student.

Well I disagree with him. 61.127B - Find x-c in there. I don't see in my FAR where I can't let student do that. It says what we can't do, not what we can.
61 is not a course.

He only made two stops, that right there goes against this
Who cares what day he did this on. If he left at 11 pm and came back at 2 am, could he not log it? Date is really trivial in my opinion. He went on a x-c trip, in fact a student pilot away from base needing to assess changing weather. Great experience, and a great x-c.

one of which is a
straight-line distance of at least 250 nautical miles from the original
departure point.
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Do you see anywhere in there that saying anything about one leg. Look at other certificate requirements, when they want that, they will say it.

Just because I don't hold a CFI rating doesn't mean i'm out of my "element."
No, just giving you a hard time. You are well informed and ahead of many in your shoes.
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see, i was always taught that if you shut down, it's a new flight

if i do all my training in n123xx with a cfi, whos to say it's not all one flight then?
 
Completely agree with the above. Date is irrelevant/ambiguous in this situation. There is no requirement in the FAR's stating that if a trip spans a multi day period that the days must be recorded separately. I also don't see a problem with counting this cross country as your CSEL X-C (other than the old 61 FAQ's that tgrayson so wisely brought up). Thus the question becomes: would the FAA raise a fit about using this cross country for your comm as well and is there anything to show if the 61 FAQ is still binding/valid (legally)?
 
DPApilot said:
see, i was always taught that if you shut down, it's a new flight

if i do all my training in n123xx with a cfi, whos to say it's not all one flight then?
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Does that mean that you think that if you were to do a training x-c flight and stop for a hamburger you would not get to count the earlier route of flight because you shut down?
 
SFCC/UND said:
Do you have to use rudders:)
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It makes the flight way more efficient. :rolleyes:

DPApilot said:
see, i was always taught that if you shut down, it's a new flight

if i do all my training in n123xx with a cfi, whos to say it's not all one flight then?
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Common Sense?

GUNIT said:
Completely agree with the above. Date is irrelevant/ambiguous in this situation. There is no requirement in the FAR's stating that if a trip spans a multi day period that the days must be recorded separately. I also don't see a problem with counting this cross country as your CSEL X-C (other than the old 61 FAQ's that tgrayson so wisely brought up). Thus the question becomes: would the FAA raise a fit about using this cross country for your comm as well and is there anything to show if the 61 FAQ is still binding/valid (legally)?
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Right, I would say if a CFI will sign you off, you can do it as a student too.
 
I'm done as well, I have to go to work then dive to DC then to Ohio tomorrow.
I won't be around to see your response until sunday.
 
DPApilot said:
see, i was always taught that if you shut down, it's a new flight
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Just because you were taught that does not mean it has any basis in reality. So if I fly out to my in-law's place in the morning and come home that evening, I have to log two separate flights? If I fly out to a pancake breakfast in the morning and come home by lunchtime, my only option is to log two separate flights or leave the engine idling while I'm eating breakfast? Please provide a reg or letter of opinion which supports that. Because my CFI told me so doesn't count.
 
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