Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe

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Former astronaut: Man not alone in universe

He says governments are concealing evidence that extraterrestrials exist
The astronaut is from Roswell, New Mexico, the site of an alleged UFO crash
Mitchell: Roswell residents "told not to talk about their experience" by military

(CNN) -- Earth Day may fall later this week, but as far as former NASA astronaut Edgar Mitchell and other UFO enthusiasts are concerned, the real story is happening elsewhere.

Mitchell, who was part of the 1971 Apollo 14 moon mission, asserted Monday that extraterrestrial life exists, and that the truth is being concealed by the U.S. and other governments.

He delivered his remarks during an appearance at the National Press Club following the conclusion of the fifth annual X-Conference, a meeting of UFO activists and researchers studying the possibility of alien life forms.

Mankind has long wondered if we're "alone in the universe. [But] only in our period do we really have evidence. No, we're not alone," Mitchell said.

"Our destiny, in my opinion, and we might as well get started with it, is [to] become a part of the planetary community. ... We should be ready to reach out beyond our planet and beyond our solar system to find out what is really going on out there."

Mitchell grew up in Roswell, New Mexico, which some UFO believers maintain was the site of a UFO crash in 1947. He said residents of his hometown "had been hushed and told not to talk about their experience by military authorities." They had been warned of "dire consequences" if they did so.

But, he claimed, they "didn't want to go to the grave with their story. They wanted to tell somebody reliable. And being a local boy and having been to the moon, they considered me reliable enough to whisper in my ear their particular story."

Roughly 10 years ago, Mitchell claimed, he was finally given an appointment at Pentagon to discuss what he had been told.

An unnamed admiral working for the Joint Chiefs of Staff promised to uncover the truth behind the Roswell story, Mitchell said. The stories of a UFO crash "were confirmed," but the admiral was then denied access when he "tried to get into the inner workings of that process."

The same admiral, Mitchell claimed, now denies the story.

"I urge those who are doubtful: Read the books, read the lore, start to understand what has really been going on. Because there really is no doubt we are being visited," he said.

"The universe that we live in is much more wondrous, exciting, complex and far-reaching than we were ever able to know up to this point in time."

A NASA spokesman denied any cover-up.

"NASA does not track UFOs. NASA is not involved in any sort of cover-up about alien life on this planet or anywhere else -- period," Michael Cabbage said Monday.

Debates have continued about what happened at Roswell. The U.S. Air Force said in 1994 that wreckage recovered there in 1947 was most likely from a balloon-launched classified government project.

Stephen Bassett, head of the Paradigm Research Group (PRG), which hosted the X-Conference, said that the truth about extraterrestrial life is being suppressed because it is politically explosive.

"There is a third rail [in American politics], and that is the UFO question. It is many magnitudes more radioactive than Social Security ever dreamed to be," Bassett said.
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I am think about the difference in uniform between agent smith and MIB. Doug, do you work for MIB on the side? ;):p
 
I'm not the conspiracy type by any means - hell, I still believe one man killed JFK - but maybe we shouldn't just write the guy off as insane. I think most people would probably agree that we're not alone in the universe.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I'm not the conspiracy type by any means - hell, I still believe one man killed JFK - but maybe we shouldn't just write the guy off as insane. I think most people would probably agree that we're not alone in the universe.
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[rant] Are these the same most people who have determined that whoever controls the white house also controls congress? Maybe I am being to cynical, I know somethings out there. Just cannot understand how moronic some people have become in a day and age where using a brain cell or two might actually get you a job. [/rant] sorry.
 
Murdoughnut said:
I think most people would probably agree that we're not alone in the universe.
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I think most people with even a flailing appreciation of the size of the universe would agree that we're almost certainly "not alone". Sadly, the same people would likely agree that the odds of us ever finding, let alone hugging our twelve-tentacled brethern are vanishingly small to the point of being statistically unmeaningful. Let further alone hiding their flying saucers from Moulder and Scully. The conditions that seem to be necessary for the creation of "life" are so specific and the distances involved so mind-numbingly absurd that it's a pretty safe bet we'll all still be scanning the skies when they, and the rest of the universe, collapse back in to a singularity. We might meet as particles in billions of years, but that's about it. Cue someone to sing "Stardust".
 
Boris Badenov said:
I think most people with even a flailing appreciation of the size of the universe would agree that we're almost certainly "not alone". Sadly, the same people would likely agree that the odds of us ever finding, let alone hugging our twelve-tentacled brethern are vanishingly small to the point of being statistically unmeaningful. Let further alone hiding their flying saucers from Moulder and Scully. The conditions that seem to be necessary for the creation of "life" are so specific and the distances involved so mind-numbingly absurd that it's a pretty safe bet we'll all still be scanning the skies when they, and the rest of the universe, collapse back in to a singularity. We might meet as particles in billions of years, but that's about it. Cue someone to sing "Stardust".
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I don't know what is more scary. The fact that you have probably watch X-files or that you can reasonably spell Mulder and Scully?
 
Murdoughnut said:
I'm not the conspiracy type by any means - hell, I still believe one man killed JFK - but maybe we shouldn't just write the guy off as insane. I think most people would probably agree that we're not alone in the universe.
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The idea of aliens being here is the ridiculous part. If they were here, we'd know it. More powerful cultures in human history (and if they've gotten technology and decided to explore out into the universe then their history is probably similar to ours) tend to destroy less powerful ones. Pre-columbian societies, the Mori-Oris, the Khoisan by the Bantu, potentially even neanderthals, all destroyed by cultures with better guns/germs/steel. Think, why does the white man have all the cargo? You can bet that if they're here, they've got better cargo.
 
ppragman said:
The idea of aliens being here is the ridiculous part. If they were here, we'd know it. More powerful cultures in human history (and if they've gotten technology and decided to explore out into the universe then their history is probably similar to ours) tend to destroy less powerful ones. Pre-columbian societies, the Mori-Oris, the Khoisan by the Bantu, potentially even neanderthals, all destroyed by cultures with better guns/germs/steel. Think, why does the white man have all the cargo? You can bet that if they're here, they've got better cargo.
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You're assuming other cultures would follow the same drives and psychology as humans. IMO, that's a pretty arrogant assumption. I'm kinda hoping we get out of the whole "destroy what we can't conquer or understand" mentality. It's totally possible a civilization that had developed the means for travel between solar systems might have evolved past that.
 
Minuteman said:
Is it a requirement that you be bat insane but have it under control to be an astronaut? :crazy:
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Ask any military folk with high end security clearance who've served at Wright-Patterson in Ohio or McDill in Tampa about recovered alien aircraft and preserved alien bodies.
The US government doesn't come clean because the US government is trying to figure out the technology before anyone else does.
Much easier said than done!! It's a task comparable to handing the founding fathers a computer and having them with their 1700's knowledge trying to figure out how it works.
How other worldly technology functions is THE mystery and it's what some of our brightest scientific minds have been trying to figure out for decades. Only a closed minded fool would deny the overwhelming evidence of ongoing extra-terrestrial visitation to this planet.
Btw, Mitchell is not alone within the astronaut corp with his belief about extra-terrestrials. He's just the most outspoken about it.
 
Snoopy2 said:
Ask any military folk with high end security clearance who've served at Wright-Patterson in Ohio or McDill in Tampa about recovered alien aircraft and preserved alien bodies.
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Hmm. What qualifies as a "high-end" sekuritay clearance, these days? I know a few people with what I imagine, in my sheeple mind, to be significant access, and they have been completely mum about their reverse engineering of the Jetsons' family car. Hell, they're probably In On It. They might even be Alienz themselves! The trooth is out there! Wheels within wheels...
 
kellwolf said:
You're assuming other cultures would follow the same drives and psychology as humans. IMO, that's a pretty arrogant assumption. I'm kinda hoping we get out of the whole "destroy what we can't conquer or understand" mentality. It's totally possible a civilization that had developed the means for travel between solar systems might have evolved past that.
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I doubt that its that much of a possibility. I don't claim to have any knowledge about what they think or how their culture works, but I'll tell you what, natural selection tends to weed out the less than peaceful cultures over the years. Those that are peaceful probably aren't going to be out galavanting around with a damn good reason. Unless they evolved in an environment where extreme cooperation was the only way to survive, I doubt that they'd be all that different from us at the same stage. Convergent evolution is the name of the game, IMO, civilization is a very specialized part of the human experience, and cultures everywhere have come up with convergent solutions to the same problems in different places (e.g. Mathematics, irrigation, the wheel), I think to that to truly believe that ET out there is all that different from us (other than anatomically) is a disservice to evolution, and to ET. He earned his spot at the top of the food chain. Plus, if you look at the history of the earth, there's never really been a caring, or peaceful animal, they've all had to claw their way to the top if they ever did. Herbavores still compete for mates, and trample attacking predators. Hell, many animals will canabalistically eat the young of their neighbors to insure that only their genes go on. The universe is a pretty tough place, and really, only the tough or lucky will get the chance to build spaceships.

Even on Earth. Bhutan is an incredibly peaceful country, but not only do they have no spaceships, I doubt they even have the desire to build them. There is something about the explorer/conquerer drive that makes us explore in the first place. Races without that aren't going to leave their back yard.
 
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