Yet another thread about interview techniques.

Seggy said:
Let me sum it up a little differently.

I have been told, folks step on their cranks VERY badly at these career fairs. If one is going to step on their crank BADLY in front of airline A (I am talking to you because I got a fastpass to only your airline), they are more likely predisposed to step on their crank BADLY in front of airline B (Do we really have to make an announcement in front of JetBlue passengers?).
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May be a correlation, may not, I really have no idea.

I think they key is recognizing that different airlines look for different things from their applicants and we need these conversation to reinforce the idea that you need to approach it knowing something about the company, knowing what makes the company you're applying with unique and not all airlines just want to get a warm body in a seat.
 
Snuggle said:
I'd say he's more like a amazing athlete who isn't comfortable with public speaking.
Say what you want, but everyone would have wanted that dude as their teams running back.
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That's fine, but 99.9% of the people you're going to encounter can fly the hell out of a jet, otherwise, you'd see companies drag Frascas to career fairs.

Gotta fly, gotta represent the brand well.

Chuck Yeager is an awesome pilot, but doesn't belong in the airline business.
 
Snuggle said:
In the past year I've only seen 2 Captains do stand up PA's.

I do get your point though and agree with you on the hiring for culture thing. Just pointing out what I see out on the line though.
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I know. But it is the expectation. People aren't complying out of spite at the moment, and there's a big difference in fleets. More E190 guys do it than A320 guys.

(Before you guys get upset about the word "spite" it's just an observation, not a value judgement. I don't really care either way for the stand up PAs. The less people talk to me on an airplane, the better, as far as I'm concerned.)
 
Derg said:
Chuck Yeager is an awesome pilot, but doesn't belong in the airline business.
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Ah yes, that's a much better comparison.

I agree companies hire for culture. It makes sense because not everyone would be a good fit at every single company.
 
PhilosopherPilot said:
(Before you guys get upset about the word "spite" it's just an observation, not a value judgement. I don't really care either way for the stand up PAs. The less people talk to me on an airplane, the better, as far as I'm concerned.)
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Haha yea then there's the opposide end of the spectrum with guys who rant on forever and think they are headlining a comedy show. .....cringeworthy
 
Snuggle said:
Haha yea then there's the opposide end of the spectrum with guys who rant on forever and think they are headlining a comedy show. .....cringeworthy
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I remember a guy at Pinnacle that thought Southwest was going to pick him up because of his PA. "Ladies and gentleman welcome aboard. I know what you're thinking, this thing is small. But it has leather seats, and it goes 500 miles an hours...just think of this as your own corvette all they way too xyz..."

Cringeworthy is an understatement.
 
Adler said:
I remember a guy at Pinnacle that thought Southwest was going to pick him up because of his PA. "Ladies and gentleman welcome aboard. I know what you're thinking, this thing is small. But it has leather seats, and it goes 500 miles an hours...just think of this as your own corvette all they way too xyz..."

Cringeworthy is an understatement.
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We need a 'do not like' button.
 
PhilosopherPilot said:
I know. But it is the expectation. People aren't complying out of spite at the moment, and there's a big difference in fleets. More E190 guys do it than A320 guys.

(Before you guys get upset about the word "spite" it's just an observation, not a value judgement. I don't really care either way for the stand up PAs. The less people talk to me on an airplane, the better, as far as I'm concerned.)
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That's saying a lot. Granted I don't fly much but I think I've seen 3 people do it. 1 did it because we we diverted and was explaining the process to the customers.

I also don't think it is spite. Some turns are short and you know that it is busy up to the final moments as the gate agent comes down.
 
Anyone else have any questions? I think I'm getting OCD refreshing this page!
 
I can't tell if @Seggy is trying to troll more or not. Even to me a passenger who isn't on airlines much I can see the vast differences in experience between the carriers.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
I can't tell if @Seggy is trying to troll more or not. Even to me a passenger who isn't on airlines much can see the vast differences in experience between the carriers.
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I don't think he is trolling. He works for a carrier that is working on changing their image. As all of us know, this is a major task and takes a lot of hard work over a long period of time to get the public perception that things are changing.
 
amorris311 said:
That's saying a lot. Granted I don't fly much but I think I've seen 3 people do it. 1 did it because we we diverted and was explaining the process to the customers.

I also don't think it is spite. Some turns are short and you know that it is busy up to the final moments as the gate agent comes down.
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When I was hired 4 years ago it was far more common to see stand up PAs. It also varies by base and equipment. There has been a huge shift in behavior since ALPA was voted in. Again, that's not a value judgement, just an observation.

I do stand up PAs if I have time, which varies a lot flight to flight. I'm not huge on public speaking, so mine are short and sweet, no matter where I give them from.

And yes, we have got to fix the last 10 minutes at this place. It's far too rushed. We can do better.
 
PhilosopherPilot said:
When I was hired 4 years ago it was far more common to see stand up PAs. It also varies by base and equipment. There has been a huge shift in behavior since ALPA was voted in. Again, that's not a value judgement, just an observation.

I do stand up PAs if I have time, which varies a lot flight to flight. I'm not huge on public speaking, so mine are short and sweet, no matter where I give them from.

And yes, we have got to fix the last 10 minutes at this place. It's far too rushed. We can do better.
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Centralized load planning! ;)
 
amorris311 said:
Centralized load planning! ;)
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That's coming, but it's a big project. It can't be turned on next week. We are doing some risk assessments on some other procedural changes that might help with the ops pressure in the near term. But you're right, CLP is the best way to get reduce the pressure permanently.
 
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