Yes JC, there truly is a God: Skybus is dead!

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All Skybust get his lovely parting gift:

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Of course, you'll have to go pick it up at the Costco on your own time. :D

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Yeah, didn't Frontier float the bill for the regional Lynx to get up and running? No wonder they are in the hole. Of course Southwest is kicking them right in the baby-maker. I'd hate to see Frontier go.

Please god, smite Mesa. Amen.
 
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Please... check to see if there is already a thread written before starting anew...this is the third merge in a few hours that we have had to perform.

Thanks! :)
 
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Check it out before Viacom has it pulled from youtube:

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So now we want ALPA carriers to go under? ;)

I'd prefer JO to just take his bag of money and run off into the night, then maybe Mesa can get better. Or better yet maybe he'll be convicted of a felony again.
 
Wow... just wow. I didn't think their implosion was going to be this quick.

I knew they had a seriously flawed business model to begin with. I mean who starts an airline with no customer service, destinations no one wants to fly to, and seating that's only comfortable to people about 4 foot 5?

I wish I could search as far back as last April because I wrote a pretty good piece as to why this airline couldn't compete.
 
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<p>Then again, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out....... and I certainly wasn't alone in my guess!
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I predicted it too. But I thought they'd make it until September.

Well I'll drink to our predictions.
 
Not too surprising, if you ask me.
It seems like they were a bit reckless with finances...
Seriously? $10 fares? I know it's only one per flight, but really...
 
Don't talk bad about Mesa, you might get sued.

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I just saw that the Aloha FO that MESA sued still has 7K in legal fees. <....> I'd love to kick JO in the nuts.
 
Not too surprising, if you ask me.
It seems like they were a bit reckless with finances...
Seriously? $10 fares? I know it's only one per flight, but really...

It was more like 10 per flight, but it's more than that.

1.) Their route structure. They based their ops in CMH and flew to out of the way third-tier airports. They flew from CMH-Bellingham,WA and called it Seattle! That's a good 100 mile trip! I can't imagine that 156 people want to fly from CMH to Bellingham each day to make that flight worthwhile. Most of their destinations had no way to get to their main city counterparts, unless you rented a car from the 1 agency on the field.

Their choices in destinations were curious to say the least. Since they obviously weren't targeting the business traveler, they must have been targeting the leisure traveler. However, their route structure didn't reflect that. They didn't fly to any vacation destination (LAS, MCO, and SAN) until the last half of their existence and even then it was odd places (Punta Gorda?). In addition, all of their flights began and ended in CMH or GSO, further whittling down their potential passenger traffic to those markets only.

Towards the end, they added/dropped more cities than some airlines have in their entire existence.

2.) No customer service. Everything had to be done via their website or kiosk. There was no 1-800 number to call to talk to a live person. In the event of irregular operations, your options were limited and you forced to rebook via their kiosk. Sometimes, this meant waiting a day to get rebooked. Then there was the issue of having to board the plane via ramps. No one wants to board a plane via a ramp in the cold, rainy weather. You can get away with this at airports such as ACK where it's part of the mystique of flying to the island, but not with some of the destinations that Skybus served.

3.) Passenger treatment. Passengers were nickel and dimed from the get-go. You want to check a bag? $5. Want to preboard? Another $10. Then there was the seating. 28" seat pitch. Are you kidding me? No inflight entertainment either. The website actually gloated about their lack of customer service. I mean they actually stated that it was forbidden to bring food onboard. Their answer to the lack of IFE was to "bring a book." Not only is that condescending, but it turns people off to your airline.

I know for a fact that their repeat traffic was nearly non-existent. You can see this borne out in their load factors for Q4 of 2007. It went from the upper 70% to lower 80%, to the low 50% in February. When was the last time you were on an airplane that had an empty seat, let alone over half empty? At least it would have been easy to non-rev on them, if you wanted to end up in Chocopee, MA (actually marketed as Windsor-Locks, CT).

4.) Employee relations. They actually stated that they will pay far below industry average. We all know how much pilots were paid, but FAs were far worse. FAs had to pay for everything from their training to their parking at the airport. Sure the FAs got a cut of on board sales, but when only 5 people are flying from CMH to PSM (again marketed, no joke, as Boston) I don't see how they could afford to go to work.

When I saw their business plan, I could see this was a failed venture from the get-go. I'm glad they have failed. I have no pity for anyone who worked for them. Maybe they will learn their lesson and read a company's business plan before signing on the dotted line. Alas, the free market has worked in this case.
 
this is joyous news!!!! I just went to their site and it is completely gone except for a page saying that they are ceasing operations on the 5th. WHOOOHOOOO!!!!!

I do feel a little bad for the families though.
 
Not me. I don't want Mesa to go under, but I'm afraid that they will. The situation is pretty much beyond repair at this point.
In any event I imagine you'll be seeing more Skybus names on the list shortly.

Are pilots the type to hold a grudge? :laff:
 
Of course I'm kidding! I haven't been an airline pilot for long but I jumpseated not too long ago and after introducing myself to the captain stood there smiling pleasantly while he glanced at what must be a list of old Eastern scabs (or maybe gojet pilots? or freedom a-listers? I dunno) or something -- I would have been 6 years old then but better double check :)

Of course a couple of seconds later he said 'wecome aboard' and was a really nice guy.
 
Not suprising that this business model failed, everybody saw that coming. But when 200+ families are now scrambling for the basic necessities in life during an economic downturn in Ohio of all places, I think it's pretty unclassy to go pissing on their graves. I wish these folks luck and I hope they find new careers with decent management and sensible marketing.
 
Not suprising that this business model failed, everybody saw that coming. But when 200+ families are now scrambling for the basic necessities in life during an economic downturn in Ohio of all places, I think it's pretty unclassy to go pissing on their graves. I wish these folks luck and I hope they find new careers with decent management and sensible marketing.

touché
 
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