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cardsfan05

cardsfan05

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Student pilot, at a part 61 school in northern Illinois....Thinking of where to plan my long XC.

Although I'd like to meet part 141 requirements on the long XC. What exactly are the part 141 requirements?
I would like to go to a somewhat busy airport...Obviously stay away from chicago airspace, but what other airports are too busy?

Thanks
 
cardsfan05 said:
Student pilot, at a part 61 school in northern Illinois....Thinking of where to plan my long XC.

Although I'd like to meet part 141 requirements on the long XC. What exactly are the part 141 requirements?
I would like to go to a somewhat busy airport...Obviously stay away from chicago airspace, but what other airports are too busy?

Thanks
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Go down to Eastern Kentucky or over to West Virginia. Experience something other than flat.
 
Are you in a part 141 school? Or 61?
Ask your instructor, and hopefully your instructor will show you where to find the reg in the FARs.

Also I agree with @z987k, get some experience other than flat
 
cardsfan05 said:
Student pilot, at a part 61 school in northern Illinois....Thinking of where to plan my long XC.

Although I'd like to meet part 141 requirements on the long XC. What exactly are the part 141 requirements?
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Why exactly do you want to meet Part 141 requirements if you are at a Part 61 school? (Btw, a minimum 141 long xc would not meet 61 requirements.)
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
Why exactly do you want to meet Part 141 requirements if you are at a Part 61 school? (Btw, a minimum 141 long xc would not meet 61 requirements.)
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I'm currently at a part 61 flight school. But I'd like to go above and beyond reaching part 141 long XC requirements if that was possible.
 
I can't recall the distance requirement, but if you are looking for exposure to more traffic but not too much traffic, then DPA MSN MLI DPA might fill the bill. There is a smidgen of terrain between MSN and MLI, and you'd pass in the vicinity of Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesin East (which is very pretty from the air) and at MLI you would be able to see some barge traffic on the river.

Replacing MSN with C37 (Brodhead, WI) would be another possibility with a couple of benefits: this route shortens the total distance by about 50 miles, and Brodhead is a very interesting airport with lots of restored ragwing planes.

Go in the early morning for the best visibilities.
 
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cardsfan05 said:
I'm currently at a part 61 flight school. But I'd like to go above and beyond reaching part 141 long XC requirements if that was possible.
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As I mentioned, in this case, and in many others, the 141 requirement is less than the Part 61 requirement. The minimum length of a Part 61 student solo cross country is 150 NM; in Part 141 it's only 100 NM (see Part 141, Appendix B).

No "above and beyond" there. Do a "141 cross country and you won;t get your private certificate outside of a Part 141 school. It's a common mistake - thinking Part 141 requirements are greater than Part 61 requirements. They are not; in fact they are almost uniformly less. When you think of the differences between Part 61 and 141, think "structure" and "supervision". Part 141 requirements are generally lower than Part 61 requirements because you are in a structured, FAA-supervised environment with more restrictions. That's the reason the certificate and rating requirements are lower.
 
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