When I went into the Army in 83 as a 93H none of us joined to serve our country. We didnt want to go to college or had student loans to defer. Anyhow a few of my buddies stayed in. They all became officers after being enlisted. No future being enlisted. Way better retirement being a officer. In hind site I kinda wish I would of applied for WOC. I had enough Army after 3 years and got out.
wrestling with the idea; army warrant officer
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///AMG
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if the wardroom food is the "good food", apparently there is none in the Navy. It might be served on real plates but its the same.....gone are the times when wardroom dues actually bought different food. Only military service that charges dudes $300+/mo on a combat deployment out of pocket, to have a SWO dictated schedule that pretty much prevents eating before a 7 hr (combat) flight because the wardroom "isn't open" (thanks SUPPOs, I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire). To be honest, we heard the best food was in the Chief's Mess.....which I would be inclined to believe.....we all know the Chief has more pull when it comes to CS TDY orders and such.
What do you mean "you heard" the Chief's mess food is the best? Go down to the goat locker and tell them to make you and other select JO's a plate.
I'm sure theyll be more than accomodating.
///AMG
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What do you mean "you heard" the Chief's mess food is the best? Go down to the goat locker and tell them to make you and other select JO's a plate.
I'm sure theyll be more than accomodating.
lol.........you'd probably have me if I were still an idiot ENS
I remember one time we were out in Fallon, O'club was shut down for one reason or another, and they advertised that the chief's club would be happy to host us. I didn't really expect that to be the case, but I went anyway to fish out a couple of our new guys and bring them back to the Q. Long story short, some bells rang, some chiefs started yelling and tapping command coins on the bar, and I walked out with a $54 tab after having consumed 0 beverages. Well worth it to keep the maintenance control desk chiefs flowing good jets my way, but I learned about all I needed to know about the chiefs club that night on the subject of the Navy CPO, you are a fool of an officer if you don't ask questions when the answers the Chief gives you are BS, but you are a bigger fool if you don't play nice with them and let them do their thing otherwise.
lol.........you'd probably have me if I were still an idiot ENS
Bunch of dirty, sneaky bastards.
Lawman
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lol.........you'd probably have me if I were still an idiot ENS
on the subject of the Navy CPO, you are a fool of an officer if you don't ask questions when the answers the Chief gives you are BS, but you are a bigger fool if you don't play nice with them and let them do their thing otherwise.
Rules for casual off duty encounters as a young JO"
1. Get a coin that has at least a star on it.
2. Never walk into a bar without said coin.
In general we had pretty good food onboard the Ranger. Except when it came to pizza. In the mess we always got paper thin nasty pizza. The ward room always had thick crust very tasty treats. They cooked it overnight all the time. Only problem was they didnt get much business. Our 'connection' always brought some down to X-2. Shoot even our chief would call up and ask if the pizza was in then come back down to our workspace. People knew and were always knocking on our door.
DaveC
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A few months ago on a training mission we dropped some infantry guys off in a dusty LZ with five ships at 1-2 disk separation under red illum within 10 seconds of the target time. Afterwards the comment from their commander was "what's the big deal, all you did was fly around and land in some field."
Speaking of food.....I always volunteered to help with working parties when the supply ships came. I remember working down in the cold storage and it was funny as heII..A case of fresh fruit would always be jsut a tad empty by the time it made it down to refrigeration....Not sure how it happened....
Blackhawk
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I'm going to be the dissenting voice here.
Should you go into the Army expecting to be a soldier first? Sure. But there is no problem going into the Army with the goal of getting into flight school. Heck, if that is what you want I would tell you to avoid an enlistment that did not guarantee it.
I never heard anyone wanting to go into the Army to be a ranger or special forces being told, "Well, you don't enlist to be a ranger or special forces. You enlist to be a soldier."
For some reason in aviation we feel we have to downplay our expertise. We tell officer candidates that they are suppose to be tactical and technical experts. An infantry officer is expected to shoot expert; if they are not an airborne ranger... well, good luck. A tank LT better shoot expert at gunnery and know their tank. An aviation LT... well, don't worry about making PC. Don't worry your pretty little head about tactics. You've got WO's for that. Lam Song 719? Don't study that. Study the Battle of Chickamauga for nine weeks instead and ponder what Braxton Bragg would have done if he had an AH-64. Of course when I did the WO advanced course I was not taught aviation tactics either. I did, however, learn how an infantry team clears a trench, the level of maintenance for an M-1 Abrams, and where the corps smoke unit gets their resupply of smoke. Something that might help my BC as we went to war, like how to read an ATO or SPINS? Or a study of why tight formations might look pretty but are not tactically sound (lesson learned in WWII by RAF)? Not so much.
Of course we do have our priorities straight. We'll cut back on training and airframes, but man, we keep spending millions to get the two piece flight suit looking like everyone else.
Should you go into the Army expecting to be a soldier first? Sure. But there is no problem going into the Army with the goal of getting into flight school. Heck, if that is what you want I would tell you to avoid an enlistment that did not guarantee it.
I never heard anyone wanting to go into the Army to be a ranger or special forces being told, "Well, you don't enlist to be a ranger or special forces. You enlist to be a soldier."
For some reason in aviation we feel we have to downplay our expertise. We tell officer candidates that they are suppose to be tactical and technical experts. An infantry officer is expected to shoot expert; if they are not an airborne ranger... well, good luck. A tank LT better shoot expert at gunnery and know their tank. An aviation LT... well, don't worry about making PC. Don't worry your pretty little head about tactics. You've got WO's for that. Lam Song 719? Don't study that. Study the Battle of Chickamauga for nine weeks instead and ponder what Braxton Bragg would have done if he had an AH-64. Of course when I did the WO advanced course I was not taught aviation tactics either. I did, however, learn how an infantry team clears a trench, the level of maintenance for an M-1 Abrams, and where the corps smoke unit gets their resupply of smoke. Something that might help my BC as we went to war, like how to read an ATO or SPINS? Or a study of why tight formations might look pretty but are not tactically sound (lesson learned in WWII by RAF)? Not so much.
Of course we do have our priorities straight. We'll cut back on training and airframes, but man, we keep spending millions to get the two piece flight suit looking like everyone else.
H46Bubba
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No chance in hell!