Work in one state, live in another...

BobDDuck said:
Actually, no.

You are looking for 49-40116(f).

And that says that an air carrier employee is taxed at the state level by states where a) they reside and b) states where more than 50% of their flight time occurs.
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Huh....soooooooooo again it's where you're flying over 50% of your flights from, at least according to what we've both written. And if that's not applicable, where you don't have a majority (over 50%) in one state it falls back on residency?

I guess you're friends are lucky. I personally only know one guy that bounces all over the place with flights. Every single other person is flying closer to 65-75% of their flights from the same location (let alone state), and some of them higher than that. I am one of those who flies maybe once a month not out of base.
 
Geez, in that case, if you work for SouthernJets and you're on the DTW 320 category, you're going to be filing NYC taxes! :)

So tired of LGA. Ungh.
 
tattooguy21 said:
Huh....soooooooooo again it's where you're flying over 50% of your flights from, at least according to what we've both written. And if that's not applicable, where you don't have a majority (over 50%) in one state it falls back on residency?

I guess you're friends are lucky. I personally only know one guy that bounces all over the place with flights. Every single other person is flying closer to 65-75% of their flights from the same location (let alone state), and some of them higher than that. I am one of those who flies maybe once a month not out of base.
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I seem to remember a case in California, where the 51% was based in flight time over the geographical state lines, not the number of flight segments.
A completely ridiculous thing to calculate, yes.
 
Pro athletes have to file tax in each state they play in so I can see how one would be taxes out of their hub. /notacpa
 
tattooguy21 said:
Huh....soooooooooo again it's where you're flying over 50% of your flights from, at least according to what we've both written. And if that's not applicable, where you don't have a majority (over 50%) in one state it falls back on residency?

I guess you're friends are lucky. I personally only know one guy that bounces all over the place with flights. Every single other person is flying closer to 65-75% of their flights from the same location (let alone state), and some of them higher than that. I am one of those who flies maybe once a month not out of base.
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z987k said:
I seem to remember a case in California, where the 51% was based in flight time over the geographical state lines, not the number of flight segments.
A completely ridiculous thing to calculate, yes.
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Like @z987k said, it's flight time. Not flights. Even if you are based in ATL and all you do is hub turns, unless you are just flying to Savannah, Athens and Columbus, the majority of your flight time is occurring outside the state of Georgia.
 
BobDDuck said:
Like @z987k said, it's flight time. Not flights. Even if you are based in ATL and all you do is hub turns, unless you are just flying to Savannah, Athens and Columbus, the majority of your flight time is occurring outside the state of Georgia.
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This.
 
BobDDuck said:
If only this applied to Federal taxes too. Transpac and NATS flying would go WAY more senior.
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It does if you spend 330 days I think it is outside the states.

Interestingly enough Hong Kong wants income tax from you if you spend more than 60 days a year there.
 
PGT said:
Pro athletes have to file tax in each state they play in so I can see how one would be taxes out of their hub. /notacpa
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Bingo, the jock tax. This is a big detail that much of the public doesn't think of. "Breaking news: Hingle McCringleberry just signed a record breaking 4 year contract worth $50M!" and more than half of it is out the window in taxes. It still isn't a bad deal, but not as glamorous as the headline reads.


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CFI A&P said:
Bingo, the jock tax. This is a big detail that much of the public doesn't think of. "Breaking news: Hingle McCringleberry just signed a record breaking 4 year contract worth $50M!" and more than half of it is out the window in taxes. It still isn't a bad deal, but not as glamorous as the headline reads.


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The smart ones have a deferred comp plan
 
BobDDuck said:
Like @z987k said, it's flight time. Not flights. Even if you are based in ATL and all you do is hub turns, unless you are just flying to Savannah, Athens and Columbus, the majority of your flight time is occurring outside the state of Georgia.
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Yup. I think it's stopped now but several years ago we had a bunch of VX guys who all got letters from the state of California about state taxes owed for being based in SFO or LAX. They had to just write letters to show and prove that the majority of their flight time for the transcon flights, only ~30 minutes of a 5-6 hr flight were spent in California. It was all BS but it eventually went away.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Yup. I think it's stopped now but several years ago we had a bunch of VX guys who all got letters from the state of California about state taxes owed for being based in SFO or LAX. They had to just write letters to show and prove that the majority of their flight time for the transcon flights, only ~30 minutes of a 5-6 hr flight were spent in California. It was all BS but it eventually went away.
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Cali government is left wing crazy. They have to pay for the heath and food benefits somehow. It's a pretty normal thing for them to do, they'll snag a few people in their net when sending out those mass letters.

They'll even delve into medical billings to determine if people are in fact setting up residency there without disclosing it.

Your best recourse is to never move to CA, and never purchase any sort of property there, and never be based there.
 
After being stationed there (San Diego), I subsequently left and moved north to Alaska. With my cali registered car. I did everything properly, by de-registering it with the DMV and registering with AK.

I get a letter ~4 months later stating I owe registration fee to CA because I didn't renew it. uhhh DF's. It was worth the effort to wait on hold and ass-chew the DMV person and get the proper form. I had to "prove" I registered out of state. On the proper form, I stated "no I don't, that's your job."

Never heard anything back.

Sacramento, San Fransisco and much of LA need to fall off into the ocean.
 
AdamTheAviator said:
I'm thinking of becoming Amish. They don't pay taxes, right? But I'll be one of those cool Amish that fly airplanes and still drive cars and use electricity and stuff.
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I could do that since I'm living next to Amish country, but I like playing with loopholes. I've been doing it for 19 years now. I always smile when it comes in the mail.
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Derg said:
I live in Arizona. I work out of Michigan. I don't have a tax exposure in Michigan and everything is based off my residence in Arizona.
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What if as a commuter, you wanted to get a small studio or one bedroom apartment. How would that work, tax wise. And let's add in one more wrinkle. You bought a small beater car, to get around in while in DTW?
 
Nark said:
After being stationed there (San Diego), I subsequently left and moved north to Alaska. With my cali registered car. I did everything properly, by de-registering it with the DMV and registering with AK.

I get a letter ~4 months later stating I owe registration fee to CA because I didn't renew it. uhhh DF's. It was worth the effort to wait on hold and ass-chew the DMV person and get the proper form. I had to "prove" I registered out of state. On the proper form, I stated "no I don't, that's your job."

Never heard anything back.

Sacramento, San Fransisco and much of LA need to fall off into the ocean.
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Yes California can be frustrating with some of the government agencies. Owning property though is great with Prop 13. My property taxes are much much lower in California then New York. Granted, I have only spent considerable time in two states that are arguably the worst when it comes to taxes and overreach so I don't know much different.
 
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