Words mean things

LOL! How is that cross threading... I thought I was making a point directed specifically at his comment in this thread... ;)

Bob
 
Calling them "contract" air carriers does suit it better, but in keeping with today's business I like to call them "outsourced" air carriers:)
 
Actually, I work for a small jet division of a Legacy Carrier. Hardly contract feed.

There are about 5 or 6 of this type out there still. (PSA/PDT, Eagle, Skyway, Mesaba/Big Sky, Horizon). Am I missing anybody?

EDIT: I know some of those aren't jet operators. They would be the TP division.
 
pilot602 said:
There are no "regional" arilines. The last, actual, regional airline died a long time ago (around deregulation).

What should we call these airlines?

Contract airlines.

Because that's exactly what they are.

Maybe if we can drop the term "regional" the mindset that these are "small" airlines and the ability to justify their payscales may start to disappear as well.
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Correct.

But that's a double-edged sword as the pay will remain low as long as there's a 'boogeyman' to threaten the pilot group with.

"If our costs go up with a new contract, we'll lose flying to XYZ Air!"

Raise your hands folks, who HASN'T heard that during the last round of negotiations at their respective carrier?
 
Doug Taylor said:
Correct.

But that's a double-edged sword as the pay will remain low as long as there's a 'boogeyman' to threaten the pilot group with.

"If our costs go up with a new contract, we'll lose flying to XYZ Air!"

Raise your hands folks, who HASN'T heard that during the last round of negotiations at their respective carrier?
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Right here, and we're hiring!
 
pilot602 said:
Not in this instance.

Regional airlines used to mean within a state or several state area. Not coast to coast networks and flag operations. Hence there are no more regional airlines.
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I fly for a regional airline.

We only fly in Alaska operating Beech 1900s, we have no codeshare or other affiliation with anything larger. We are the largest aircraft at probobly well over 60% of our destinations.

Just becuase we're in Alaska doesn't mean we don't count!
 
Doug Taylor said:
Correct.

But that's a double-edged sword as the pay will remain low as long as there's a 'boogeyman' to threaten the pilot group with.

"If our costs go up with a new contract, we'll lose flying to XYZ Air!"

Raise your hands folks, who HASN'T heard that during the last round of negotiations at their respective carrier?
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<raises hand>

But like above... no contract with a larger carrier... and then again, the unions don't know we exist so we're non union too...
 
Come on, people...I've been trying to get "mini-majors" to stick for a while now. Just think, it could help in negotiations, since some of the MM's are actual Majors, according to the DOT, due to revenue, or whatever they use.

And, neither of my companies have said that!!! :) :) :rotfl:
 
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