Withdrawing from 121 training.

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Nightflight

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Hypothetical real world situation.

So I'm in training now for a regional. I just got the offer for a different job outside of airlines that is a tremendously better QOL/pay/bennies.

With that said, if I withdraw from training and I ever get the itch to come back to the 121 world, how badly will that hurt me on interviews in the future? With this in mind I probably wouldn't ever look to come back for at least 5 years if ever. The pay is just to good and they pay to keep me current on all my flying.

No matter what I am taking the other job, it is just a matter of take it now, or wait 2 months before I start at the new place.

I'm kind of leaning towards finishing training. Might be painful now, but I think its a good safety valve down the road.
 
Leave now and take the other job.

I'm not a 121 pilot and have never claimed to be. But what's the purpose in finishing the training? "in case you get the itch"? There's more than 121 out there AND I'm pretty sure that if you get that itch, even in 5 years, putting "I completed 121 training" on your resume won't matter a damn bit. Take the better pay/qol/life. You're going to anyways....
 
Is 5 years how long PRIA lasts or something? Not sure how long it stays on your record but the FAA will show you worked for a 121 airline and starting and ending dates. If it is say, 6 weeks, another employer would see you either failed out of airline training or jumped ship. Either way, not very favorable. Again, I don't know if that stuff is permanent or it goes away after, say, 5 years(maybe that is what you are getting at).
 
Nightflight said:
Hypothetical real world situation.

So I'm in training now for a regional. I just got the offer for a different job outside of airlines that is a tremendously better QOL/pay/bennies.

With that said, if I withdraw from training and I ever get the itch to come back to the 121 world, how badly will that hurt me on interviews in the future? With this in mind I probably wouldn't ever look to come back for at least 5 years if ever. The pay is just to good and they pay to keep me current on all my flying.

No matter what I am taking the other job, it is just a matter of take it now, or wait 2 months before I start at the new place.

I'm kind of leaning towards finishing training. Might be painful now, but I think its a good safety valve down the road.
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I say stay and finish the training. At least it'll give you a backup if something falls through in the next couple months before starting the new job. If you ever get the urge to go back into 121 later down the road, you'll be able to explain why you made your decision (pay/QOL/bennies), and show that you didn't fail to complete training.
 
5 years was just a hypothetical date. I figure that is how long it would take to resupply the bank account to acceptable levels. I had no idea that was the magic # for PRIA.

But as I stated, I highly doubt I'll come back to airlines unless there is a golden opportunity, or if starting salaries come up to something liveable.
 
Finish the training. If I remember right there is now no limit to how far back a company can go to see your records and PRIA shows a lot more now than it used to. Also I believe a withdrawal from training is seen the same as a failure. I know if you go to upgrade and start class and then withdraw its considered a failure and you have to go take a pc just to get back in the right seat. Best thing to do is finish training with a clean record and then move on.
 
Screw US 121 airlines. Go with the place that will pay you for your skill as a professional. Whatever regional your at training for, isn't.
 
Stryder said:
Finish the training. If I remember right there is now no limit to how far back a company can go to see your records and PRIA shows a lot more now than it used to. Also I believe a withdrawal from training is seen the same as a failure. I know if you go to upgrade and start class and then withdraw its considered a failure and you have to go take a pc just to get back in the right seat. Best thing to do is finish training with a clean record and then move on.
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It's different for initial training. Not completing it is not a failure.

Now, you do have a job and you're quitting the job after a very short time. That's the explanation you'll need to give.
 
Here is another question, is training considered finished after I take the checkride in the sim, or after I complete IOE?

I've talked with a couple of friends and getting some different answers.
 
I'd say follow your heart -----*>BUT<*----- use your head.

It's a small world and it all "depends".

Lateral jump? Wouldn't touch it. I almost considered doing the same thing my freshman year at Delta in order to go to United and if I did, I'd be furloughed probably.

If I was in ground school at say, Mesa and Jet Blue called, well, that's a different story.

It's easier to explain "Well, I was at Piedmont when Fed Ex called" than it would be "I was in ground school at ExpressJet when Skywest called".

JMHO.
 
Doug Taylor said:
I'd say follow your heart -----*>BUT<*----- use your head.

It's a small world and it all "depends".

Lateral jump? Wouldn't touch it. I almost considered doing the same thing my freshman year at Delta in order to go to United and if I did, I'd be furloughed probably.

If I was in ground school at say, Mesa and Jet Blue called, well, that's a different story.

It's easier to explain "Well, I was at Piedmont when Fed Ex called" than it would be "I was in ground school at ExpressJet when Skywest called".

JMHO.
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If it's outside the airlines, as the OP said, it would seem to be less of lateral movement and more of a different career choice.
 
How far along are you in the training process?

It would be easier to explain away that you left for a better opportunity than why you finished training and cost the company a lot of money to train you just to leave a couple of days later.

And, outside of the 121 environment, just saying that you passed the training is not going to help you much.
 
Hmm, if you're gonna burn a bridge, best use dynamite!

Talk to hr, explain that you have a personal issuse to sort out, and you are electing to discontinue. Thank them for the oppertunity and say goodbye,

Honesty in many situations is the best answer.
 
I 2nd the notion that it might be smart to stick it out until you have to leave in case it falls through. I would NOT take a PC if I wasn't focused on passing it with flying colors and having an eye on the other job maybe distracting.

I wouldn't worry about how it may look to jump ship. If asked about it, I would politely point out you got a much better offer. Anyone that understands the business will "get it".
 
If say 5 or 10 years you decide to come back? It depends upon how bad the new company needs to hire pilots I think, its amazing some of the stuff a 121 carrier will overlook if they need someone bad enough.

But there's no straight answer... it really just depends on the carrier.
 
A future prospective employer will think to themselves what are the odds they'll do this again?

Look at what happens when politicians don't follow through. Sometimes they get reelected and sometimes they don't.
 
Can I ask what country are you moving to? Flying? Depending on where you're moving to 5 years is a long time. I've been in India now for a little over 2 years and will most likely be leaving a 6 figure job tax free just because I can't take it anymore. I really wouldn't be depending on a period of time for people to forget.

That said though, I'd leave training. Never know what could happen in those 2 months.

=Jason-
 
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