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C650CPT
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Re: Woodchuck
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i was out there..with my scanner...pretty wild time watching the big guys slaming it onto the deck.
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triple7
Not sure why they were slamming them onto the deck, I flew to Columbus to Dulles to McGuire AFB and back home and greased every landing ... honest.
Jim
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i was out there..with my scanner...pretty wild time watching the big guys slaming it onto the deck.
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triple7
Not sure why they were slamming them onto the deck, I flew to Columbus to Dulles to McGuire AFB and back home and greased every landing ... honest.
Jim
FL270
New Member
Re: Woodchuck
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Not sure why they were slamming them onto the deck, I flew to Columbus to Dulles to McGuire AFB and back home and greased every landing ... honest.
[/ QUOTE ]Yeah but Jim (assuming this was your military gig and not your other job, which is my guess because of McGuire), you and I both know that for some reason or another King Airs land better in a whipping wind. And, if you have some other sort of horrible weather, so much the better. The best landing I ever made in two years of flying the BE-200 was on a low IFR day in freezing rain with a 20 knot crosswind coming off a high speed (140+ for the ice) approach late at night at the end of a ten hour duty day with 7 hours of flying. Rolled it on as smoothly as I ever have (or ever will, no doubt) ... and I have no idea how I did it.
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Not sure why they were slamming them onto the deck, I flew to Columbus to Dulles to McGuire AFB and back home and greased every landing ... honest.
[/ QUOTE ]Yeah but Jim (assuming this was your military gig and not your other job, which is my guess because of McGuire), you and I both know that for some reason or another King Airs land better in a whipping wind. And, if you have some other sort of horrible weather, so much the better. The best landing I ever made in two years of flying the BE-200 was on a low IFR day in freezing rain with a 20 knot crosswind coming off a high speed (140+ for the ice) approach late at night at the end of a ten hour duty day with 7 hours of flying. Rolled it on as smoothly as I ever have (or ever will, no doubt) ... and I have no idea how I did it.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
Re: Woodchuck
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i was out there..with my scanner...pretty wild time watching the big guys slaming it onto the deck.
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triple7
Not sure why they were slamming them onto the deck, I flew to Columbus to Dulles to McGuire AFB and back home and greased every landing ... honest.
Jim
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There isnt much room for finding the sweet spot when winds are gusting to 40, with windshear warnings by ATC and Cautions in the airplane, and you only have 5000 feet of runway. We watched numerous airplanes come and plop it in and some of them we're hard to watch.
And whats Gravely?
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i was out there..with my scanner...pretty wild time watching the big guys slaming it onto the deck.
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triple7
Not sure why they were slamming them onto the deck, I flew to Columbus to Dulles to McGuire AFB and back home and greased every landing ... honest.
Jim
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There isnt much room for finding the sweet spot when winds are gusting to 40, with windshear warnings by ATC and Cautions in the airplane, and you only have 5000 feet of runway. We watched numerous airplanes come and plop it in and some of them we're hard to watch.
And whats Gravely?
Tommay85
Well-Known Member
Re: Woodchuck
Hey FL270, did anyone witness this landing?
I always make the best ones when know ones with me to see it. Actually though the best one I've done was when I took this girl from school up with me. There was a fairly gusty cross wind, and it was one of those landings where all you hear is a scretch and the tires rolling, but you dont feel the contact. She thought it was cool.
But most of the time my landings are just "slightly firm" when I take people up with me.
I guess I'm trying to hard to impress them.
Tom
Hey FL270, did anyone witness this landing?
I always make the best ones when know ones with me to see it. Actually though the best one I've done was when I took this girl from school up with me. There was a fairly gusty cross wind, and it was one of those landings where all you hear is a scretch and the tires rolling, but you dont feel the contact. She thought it was cool.
But most of the time my landings are just "slightly firm" when I take people up with me.
I guess I'm trying to hard to impress them.
Tom
sorrygottarunway
Well-Known Member
Re: Woodchuck
I think good landings are like great shots in golf... sometimes I det everything up right, and I still slam it on the mains. Heck, at least its on the mains.
In any case, I was out braving it this morning just before they went above 30kts for the gust. A half hour later, a guy flew rwy 35 and went into the grass. Unfortunately he forgot his landing gear too, as well as his brain.
Groundspeed in the 172 at 3k going northerly was about 36kts. My gramma drives faster. No... walks faster...
I think good landings are like great shots in golf... sometimes I det everything up right, and I still slam it on the mains. Heck, at least its on the mains.
In any case, I was out braving it this morning just before they went above 30kts for the gust. A half hour later, a guy flew rwy 35 and went into the grass. Unfortunately he forgot his landing gear too, as well as his brain.
Groundspeed in the 172 at 3k going northerly was about 36kts. My gramma drives faster. No... walks faster...
triple7
Well-Known Member
Re: Woodchuck
OK, guess i assumed too much. I didnt bother to look at where you were from. I live in DC. So i drag my girl down to the departure end of rwy 1 and watch the planes come and go. thats known as Gravelly point....if youve flown in or out im sure you saw all the people down there dawking at the planes. yesterday was a fun day to watch....lots of excitement.
OK, guess i assumed too much. I didnt bother to look at where you were from. I live in DC. So i drag my girl down to the departure end of rwy 1 and watch the planes come and go. thats known as Gravelly point....if youve flown in or out im sure you saw all the people down there dawking at the planes. yesterday was a fun day to watch....lots of excitement.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Re: Woodchuck
I had some fun in the wind today. 15G20K. Wahoo. I've just about got the no xwind landing down, but throw in the 90* 15kts and a thermal or two it made for an interesting time. On the plus side I got to fly into my first grass field. The approach is a standard approach until you are about 100 up heading straight into a hill. Then you turn right about 75* and you are over the runway. Sort of like Kia Tek (spelled wrong I'm sure.) Any how. The other cool thing is that the guy that owns the airport (it's a private field) also owns the only camel (the 4 footed kind) in the state. Sort of goofy seeing cows, horses, sheep and a camel on either side of the runway.
Ethan
BTW: what's the deal with the woodchuck? This is the second time I've heard it mentioned.
I had some fun in the wind today. 15G20K. Wahoo. I've just about got the no xwind landing down, but throw in the 90* 15kts and a thermal or two it made for an interesting time. On the plus side I got to fly into my first grass field. The approach is a standard approach until you are about 100 up heading straight into a hill. Then you turn right about 75* and you are over the runway. Sort of like Kia Tek (spelled wrong I'm sure.) Any how. The other cool thing is that the guy that owns the airport (it's a private field) also owns the only camel (the 4 footed kind) in the state. Sort of goofy seeing cows, horses, sheep and a camel on either side of the runway.
Ethan
BTW: what's the deal with the woodchuck? This is the second time I've heard it mentioned.
mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
Re: Woodchuck
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Hey FL270, did anyone witness this landing?
I always make the best ones when know ones with me to see it. Actually though the best one I've done was when I took this girl from school up with me. There was a fairly gusty cross wind, and it was one of those landings where all you hear is a scretch and the tires rolling, but you dont feel the contact. She thought it was cool.
But most of the time my landings are just "slightly firm" when I take people up with me.
I guess I'm trying to hard to impress them.
Tom
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That's why you have to take them a second time. The first time I took
<------------------------- this guy, I had a couple of decent landings, but coming back to the home base... well, i hit one wheel first bounced back into the air, cussed and initiated the go around. The second time I took him, I greased them... he said "damn graham, you're getting good at this." It was a good thing to hear.
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Hey FL270, did anyone witness this landing?
I always make the best ones when know ones with me to see it. Actually though the best one I've done was when I took this girl from school up with me. There was a fairly gusty cross wind, and it was one of those landings where all you hear is a scretch and the tires rolling, but you dont feel the contact. She thought it was cool.
But most of the time my landings are just "slightly firm" when I take people up with me.
I guess I'm trying to hard to impress them.
Tom
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That's why you have to take them a second time. The first time I took
<------------------------- this guy, I had a couple of decent landings, but coming back to the home base... well, i hit one wheel first bounced back into the air, cussed and initiated the go around. The second time I took him, I greased them... he said "damn graham, you're getting good at this." It was a good thing to hear.