WIA worth it?

Great advice but I have personally given up on networking. I think there are a few great stories like this one but for most of us networking seems to not be as effective as it was years ago. I did everything imaginable to get a call at JB since it has always been my dream airline for as long as I can remember. I've read all the blue books several times (love the story), dumped all my cash into the stock years ago, stopped by the headquarters on my days off, have 4 LOR's from JB pilots and 1 is from a B6 CKA that is a family friend who personally knew the recruiter I spoke with at a job fair. I've applied to 6 consecutive windows, no skeletons, humble attitude, volunteer work, previous regional pilot/recruiter, PIC A320 & 170/190 types with thousands of SIC in type, paid for resume review, no failures and a MBA. I've put all my previous networking efforts into JB and up until recently I may have been one of the few pilots left with a JB app to have never applied to any legacy. I've had conversations with other pilots and feel I was the only soul alive who would happily turn down any legacy offer if given a B6 CJO on the same day.
Now I'm waiting for captain class on the airbus for one of the LCC's wondering if networking really works. I've only had 3 aviation interviews and I recieved the job with all 3 with no networking. I'm sure I will get flamed here for this post especially here on JC but I'm just keeping it real. I'm happy for all those who have had success with networking and I believe it is better vs no networking but I feel it is highly overrated. Just my 2 cents.

You may be closer than you think you are. Don't give up!! I've said it a lot on here, but my signature is what I try to live my life by:

"Many of life’s failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up."

Some just have to try harder than others. I have a personal goal to be hired at a major or legacy in less than 5 years from now. Some have told me I'm over ambitious and it won't happen. Others are optimistic in thinking it'll happen sooner. Ultimately I have no clue, but like @Derg said I need to make my job search a full time job. As my life has final stabilized that has become my mission and I've been doing something everyday to further my chances at an interview.

I recognize honestly that I can't fully sympathize as I've hit the timing just right on my career no fault of my own. I have wanted to be an airline pilot since I was merely a little kid, and this is just the timing that has been dealt to me. However, I did see the ups and downs as I continued through my education and flight training since just prior to 9/11 I kept a pulse on the industry. I fully expected it to be a lot more of an uphill battle than it has been. And if it does become a huge uphill battle I will fight that battle to the very top of the hill! I hope you get that job at B6, but don't give up the fight!!
 
Great advice but I have personally given up on networking. I think there are a few great stories like this one but for most of us networking seems to not be as effective as it was years ago. I did everything imaginable to get a call at JB since it has always been my dream airline for as long as I can remember. I've read all the blue books several times (love the story), dumped all my cash into the stock years ago, stopped by the headquarters on my days off, have 4 LOR's from JB pilots and 1 is from a B6 CKA that is a family friend who personally knew the recruiter I spoke with at a job fair. I've applied to 6 consecutive windows, no skeletons, humble attitude, volunteer work, previous regional pilot/recruiter, PIC A320 & 170/190 types with thousands of SIC in type, paid for resume review, no failures and a MBA. I've put all my previous networking efforts into JB and up until recently I may have been one of the few pilots left with a JB app to have never applied to any legacy. I've had conversations with other pilots and feel I was the only soul alive who would happily turn down any legacy offer if given a B6 CJO on the same day.
Now I'm waiting for captain class on the airbus for one of the LCC's wondering if networking really works. I've only had 3 aviation interviews and I recieved the job with all 3 with no networking. I'm sure I will get flamed here for this post especially here on JC but I'm just keeping it real. I'm happy for all those who have had success with networking and I believe it is better vs no networking but I feel it is highly overrated. Just my 2 cents.

You know, I was feeling particularly sorry for myself one night, so I decided to try something. I had just gotten turned down at a major airline and was feeling like I just couldn't catch a break, even when I caught a break. I had gotten an interview at the 'hot airline' when interviews where tough to come by and failed it. I was stuck in the right seat of a regional going into my seventh year with no upgrade in sight and was starting to feel like I was just at the end of my rope. So I decided to make a list of all the bad luck and missteps I had had in my career that really just made it seem like the universe was out to get me.

Stuff like, getting hired two months too late to ever seem to be able to upgrade at my current shop, to failing an interview with the one good shot I had received, to getting a contact info for a guy at a legacy airline I wanted to work for and literally dropping it out of my pocket on the way to the next gate. Turns out, the longer I thought about things, the longer the list got.

I kept that list on my phone and added to it. Every time I read that list of crap luck, I got angry and I was determined to not let some stupid iPhone note of crap luck determine how I went about my career. Every time something bad or obnoxious happened, I added it to the list and resolved to overcome.

I made another list as well; networking contacts I had made throughout the years who I wanted to make an effort to keep in touch with. Maybe that's just how my brain works, but I often need to write things down and review to get things done.

I worked harder. 8 months later I had an interview at B6. 2 months later I had a CJO from B6. 2 days later I had a job invite from my dream job, and 2 months from that I was sitting in class at where I had wanted to be my whole life.

It's ok to get down from time to time, but don't give up. Try a little harder every time and you are bound to reach your goals!
 
in December and went to my first job fair in January and my second one will be WAI. I won't stop attending job fairs until I have the job offer I want. It's that simple.
Exactly the attitude I have, and exactly the right attitude TO have. WAI will be my 3rd job fair this year. I have zero intention of stopping until I'm working for the company I've dreamed about being at since I was 8.

Oh btw, I've run into lots of old friends and mentors attending these career fairs, not to mention meeting new people in the industry. 100% worth my time and money.
 
It might have been answered and I missed it, but my understanding from the WIA page is that if you don't have a fast pass, you can't talk to a recruiter. Is that true? If I were to sign up last minute for 1 day next week, would I still be able to go talk to a bunch of companies (My focus right now is Jetblue, followed by the other LCCs and United)? I don't want to spend $300+ and not be able to talk to any recruiters....
 
For United and American, if you do not have a Fast Pass you cannot meet with a recruiter. I would assume the same for Delta but you have to ask @Derg .

Fast Passes for JetBlue are only available for Wednesday. http://wai.org/16conference/fastpass.cfm

For the other companies participating in the Fast Pass I don't know if they are seeing people at their booths. Good luck.
 
For United and American, if you do not have a Fast Pass you cannot meet with a recruiter. I would assume the same for Delta but you have to ask @Derg .

Fast Passes for JetBlue are only available for Wednesday. http://wai.org/16conference/fastpass.cfm

For the other companies participating in the Fast Pass I don't know if they are seeing people at their booths. Good luck.

A little birdy says that there will be a 'fast pass' as well as 'standby'. But the birdy says there are A LOT of fast passes spread out over the days, which is good compared to NPGA. Also, a lot more staff on hand as well.
 
It might have been answered and I missed it, but my understanding from the WIA page is that if you don't have a fast pass, you can't talk to a recruiter. Is that true? If I were to sign up last minute for 1 day next week, would I still be able to go talk to a bunch of companies (My focus right now is Jetblue, followed by the other LCCs and United)? I don't want to spend $300+ and not be able to talk to any recruiters....
I smell lots of incentivized open time coming up, for those of us who are either off and not going, or for those of us mature enough to not call in sick to go to a job fair. (Not directed at you necessarily.)
 
Fast pass you say?

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The Obap Spring Fair is coming up.
http://www.obap.org/

Traditionally it is a very quiet event and you get plenty of face time. You get plenty of time outside of the actual fair to see the people running the event, volunteers, and recruiters.
 
The Obap Spring Fair is coming up.
http://www.obap.org/

Traditionally it is a very quiet event and you get plenty of face time. You get plenty of time outside of the actual fair to see the people running the event, volunteers, and recruiters.

Hate to say it but - no point in signing up if you don't know who is going to be an exhibitor. I wanted to go to the Spring fair last year and bought a ticket... But no Delta, so it basically was a waste of the dollars. :(
 
Exhibitors are listed on the homepage.

I've only been looking at the site via mobile. I'll look again.

Ediit: found them. They weren't listed AFAIK when they opened registration.

Edit 2: only 3 airlines worth going for - FedEx, UPS, Virgin America. The regionals you don't need a job fair for (though theoretically learning to go to job fairs early is good but spending money to see a regional seems pointless), and "Emirates" is violating the Open Skies agreement so I hope no US pilots go there.
 
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So just to clarify, for WIA, NO FASTPASS = NO FACETIME?

Even buying a one day pass to the event, where all 3 days for the Fastpass are sold out, what would that even do for someone at that point then?

Sure, networking and bar hopping is fun and grand, but like its been mentioned before-gotta know where. And there are many bars/hotels all over the place that people are going to end up at.
 
So just to clarify, for WIA, NO FASTPASS = NO FACETIME?

Even buying a one day pass to the event, where all 3 days for the Fastpass are sold out, what would that even do for someone at that point then?

Sure, networking and bar hopping is fun and grand, but like its been mentioned before-gotta know where. And there are many bars/hotels all over the place that people are going to end up at.

When I called WAI they told me no fast-pass, no meeting. Now if you wanna talk to Spirit, VX, and others you can.
 
I find it hard to believe they won't be doing standbys like they have in years past
 
I find it hard to believe they won't be doing standbys like they have in years past

Maybe...depends on the airline. I'm guessing the Big 3 are all full capacity. Do you really wanna go and pay hundreds of dollars and make the trip down just for the "chance" to talk to your target airline?
 
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