Just because we are young, then we must be "hot shot with more balls than brains"?
By the way, I did mean fragment, not figment.
Why airline lay off the most junior staffs
- Thread starter jowong1
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Just because we are young, then we must be "hot shot with more balls than brains"?
By the way, I did mean fragment, not figment.
There's no reason for hostility. I was simply trying to be helpful. "Short hand" typing, while it may save time, doesn't read professionally. On a text-based communication platform, the way you write is one of the main ways people can get a feel for you. Look around the forum... very few people use short hand.
And you didn't answer my question - what is your aviation background?
Copperhed51
Well-Known Member
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
opcorn::banghead::tmyk::nana2::clap::rotfl:
Does that cover it? jwong, you're kidding, right?
opcorn::banghead::tmyk::nana2::clap::rotfl:Does that cover it? jwong, you're kidding, right?
tjvpa28
Well-Known Member
Yes.
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
Quite simply, yes, you can type how wish and be as nice as you wish. Just understand that this community is accustomed to a specific style of conversation. Some will welcome you regardless. Some will tell you that you should try using tact some time.
drunkenbeagle
Gang Member
One of the reasons for having a union is to prevent exactly that from happening.
Even if there were no union preventing this, if an airline did layoff their most senior pilots, they would expect lawsuits for age discrimination. The AEDA does not apply to workers under 40, so it is generally safer to lay off younger workers.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Sadly, that's how it's coming off, though. You've got a full keyboard (I'm assuming). Use it. Honestly, it takes me LESS time at this point to type out words than hitting the space bar every few seconds to space out individual letters. Typing in complete words and sentences also tends to portray the speaker/typist in a more intelligent light. Think of it this way: if you were hiring someone based on a resume, would you hire someone that typed it in "leet speek" or took the time to type it properly?
wrxpilot
New Member
We're still waiting for your answer jowong1...
So instead of discriminating the old people, they discriminate young people instead.....o well, let's hope that the most junior staff isn't older than 40. Thanks Drunkenbeagle, you are the only who actually gave an explanation that makes some sort of sense.
BajtheJino
I'm looking at you.
They think "u", "ur" and "ppl" are words.
tjvpa28
Well-Known Member
:rotfl:
subpilot
Squawking 7600
Wow... my first canidate for the ignore list. Way to go jwong1, I have been on this site for almost 5 years now and you are the first one. The problem is not that you are asking questions, the problem is the way you ask it and then come back all argumentive. Another thing is I really think you are flaming us because for anyone to think that a reward for seniority is to be furloughed is crazy. Sounds like management talk.
wrxpilot
New Member
Yikes...
Text speak, "short hand typing", whatever you want to call it, tends to be hard on the eyes to read. We discourage it. We're asking you politely to please write out your words.
Act on this board as you would act in front of a group of people who can directly affect the future of your career. Because you know what? There are a LOT of people on this board who can directly affect your career! There are people here who are on hiring committees for several airlines and corporate flight departments, if you present a positive, professional image here, those people can help you get a job! Really! There have been many jobs found via networking on this site.
Now, as for the seniority issue.... The seniority list concept has been in place at the airlines for decades. It is not a perfect system, but it is a very good system. It eliminates brown-nosing for raises, upgrades or transfers, it lets everyone start on equal footing, and eliminates ALL possibility of pay differential on basis of age, sex, gender, etc. All 4th year F/Os make $X.XX per hour. Period.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Seniority doesn't make sense? If it doesn't, you might want to re-think careers, cause that's the way things go.
I think this is more age-discriminating than laying off people over 40!
I am not trying to flame this discussion, like I said, Drunkenbeagle is the only one who actually provided some insight, other people only give those entitlement BS because "I have been with the company for 20 years".
I understand how the seniority list works, but I don't see how it should affect people's job security. I am only talking about job security, not pay, not scheduling. Pay and scheduling etc should be awarded according to seniority but with the reasons I stated when I started the thread, furloughing from the top of the seniority list seems to make financial sense.