who has spun a 172?

Blip16

Blip16

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i never have, only a Super Cub and a Super Decathlon. I have a student with a 172B and i am excited(he isn't so much, but i am ( :yup: )

anyway, i can only imagine they are pretty agile/non violent in a spin? whoever has done this do you have any tips?

Recovery, just use PARE? the manual doesn't give a recovery procedure
 
BuickCFI said:
Recovery, just use PARE? the manual doesn't give a recovery procedure
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did you look in the "normal operations" manual? Also, if it isn't your plane, be careful about spinning it. Spinning can screw up the gyros. If your student isn't crazy about spins, don't do them unless he's doing his CFI. All you're going to do is scare him away.
 
Power On, Clean, Uncoordinated. That works about 50% of the time to get it to spin.

Recovery is opposite rudder, power to idle, pull up.

Most times it will end up being a steep spiral and not an actual spin.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
did you look in the "normal operations" manual? Also, if it isn't your plane, be careful about spinning it. Spinning can screw up the gyros. If your student isn't crazy about spins, don't do them unless he's doing his CFI. All you're going to do is scare him away.
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yes, but the manual isn't very detailed, it is from 1961 afterall..... Spins will come later in his training, just so he can experience it one time and be aware that they can happen. i am just trying to learn all i can since i only have 7 hours in a 172 (N model), considering i am from UND i only have experience in the PA28's......
 
desertdog71 said:
Most times it will end up being a steep spiral and not an actual spin.
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Watch the airspeed. If its rapidly climbing instead of hovering just above the stall speed you are in a spiral not a spin. Make sure the wings are level before "pull up"
 
Screaming_Emu said:
did you look in the "normal operations" manual? Also, if it isn't your plane, be careful about spinning it. Spinning can screw up the gyros. If your student isn't crazy about spins, don't do them unless he's doing his CFI. All you're going to do is scare him away.
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When I was a CFI, I not only demonstrated, but had students demonstrate spins and recoveries. I NEVER soloed a student without doing the above, and NEVER lost one due to their being "scared". I would guess if the CFI gets scared it might have that effect, though!

This wasn't a small sample, by the way. I probably have 2000 hours of teaching primary students, and most got their private before 55 total time, so that's a LOT of students.
 
cre8flyer said:
The 172 hates to spin. You have to keep full rudder if you want to keep it in the spin.
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Understatement. Sometimes a little goose of power just as you kick the rudder and yanked that last bit of stick back would help.

Just make sure you follow the limitations and do a wt and balance to ensure you're in the utility envelope.
 
I had no idea a 172 could be legally spun! What year model is this, and is it common?
 
ChinookDriver said:
I had no idea a 172 could be legally spun! What year model is this, and is it common?
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Sure it can, as long as the training is being done towards a rating. 172 spins aren't bad, very easy to recover. The POH even states for a more pronounced spin add opposite aileron so its definitely legal.
 
ajf005 said:
Sure it can, as long as the training is being done towards a rating. 172 spins aren't bad, very easy to recover. The POH even states for a more pronounced spin add opposite aileron so its definitely legal.
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No, I mean every 172 I have flown has been in the normal category.
 
seagull said:
Every one that I have seen has a section on the weight and balance envelope that is for utility, just have to be in it. Also, limitations section for peeps in the back seats.
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Interesting... I'll have to check that.

EDIT: My bad... you guys are absolutely right! Never noticed that before.
 
Ditto what was mentioned above it certainly does not like to spin.

If you get it into the incipient spin and let it do its thing, then pull the power back the auto-rotation will stop, no need for pilot control input. At least the SP's that is.

Pretty impressive that Cessna built such a stubborn and safe piece of equipment.
 
well this is the B model so, 3rd revision of the airplane, still a fast back with no rear window, max gross 2200, utility 1950. with 32 gals. of fuel me and my student will fall into the utility envelope. the manual states it can be spun, entry airspeed is slow deceleration, nothing else in the manual talks about spins. The manual for this airplane is about 1/6th the size of the current new model Cessna 172
 
Go half tanks and disconnect the gyros. You will be lucky to get two turns out of it before it just stays in a nose-dive. Not very impressive. Try to get a 150-152, I did my initial spin training in those, and they turn quite a bit.

The spin recovery for a 172 it just let go of the controls and reduce power, despite what the book says.
 
BuickCFI said:
considering i am from UND i only have experience in the PA28's......
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Did you ever spin a PA-28? Ive never done it because there is a placard in ours that says not too. Is it legal though?

cre8flyer said:
The 172 hates to spin. You have to keep full rudder if you want to keep it in the spin.
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BuickCFI said:
well this is the B model so, 3rd revision of the airplane, still a fast back with no rear window
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It's all about that dorsal fin they added later on (I think it got bigger at one point too). If this plane has the fastback it probably also has the straight tail, and it should spin much better. I've never spun a 172 because I would never intentionally spin a plane I also fly in the clouds, but I've spun c150s and c140s with the fast back and straight tail, and 150s and 152s with the back window and dorsal fin and the ones without the fin are much much more fun! Oh and spins are awesome, academy kids dont know what they're missing.
 
desertdog71 said:
Power On, Clean, Uncoordinated. That works about 50% of the time to get it to spin.

Recovery is opposite rudder, power to idle, pull up.

Most times it will end up being a steep spiral and not an actual spin.
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Might wanna consider re-wording that recovery as that could get people into trouble.
 
PA28s are not approved for spins, nor have i ever tried to spin one. i did my CFI spin training in a Super Decathlon. The first airplane i ever spun though was the Super Cub
 
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