Who goes first?

As this thread illustrates, once a person learns something incorrectly, they often find it difficult to recognize and acknowledge the error in addition to the difficulty of correcting it.
 
As this thread illustrates, once a person learns something incorrectly, they often find it difficult to recognize and acknowledge the error in addition to the difficulty of correcting it.

Just counting the times you have quoted yourself...is it 3 now?

Please don't stop, I'm enjoying the hilarity of this thread. I'm siding with the humans on this one. Don't let the robots take over. Where's Will Smith when you need him?
 
To answer the question of the OP, if you are talking to Cape Approach, the correct answer is Cape Air. I think I've been slowed to 150 knots over LFV before, going to ACK.
 
If anyone ever wondered why it seems like something like the above happens (I.E. Cape Air first into ACK) there are multiple reasons.

1. I would say on average the chances of you following a Cape Air into ACK are about even with your chances of following anyone else because they have more flights. I can't count the stories I have heard about people complaining "how come SWA went first!!!!" into BWI, when they fail to realize while they did follow a SWA into the airport there were 4 that followed them. Just plain odds folks.

2. controller knowledge: By this I mean if plane A is an unknown/wildcard and plane B is from a carrier you are familiar with and know will most likely comply with non-standard requests they are going be offered the opportunity to do it.


Let's put it this way, one airline I regularly work if I ask them to base it up tight for traffic to follow on the straight in will consistently base at 7-8 miles(thanks for nothing)

Another airline I work when given the same request will base it up on 3-4 mile final sometimes tighter.

Guess which airline goes in front of the straight-in and which one stays on the downwind to follow the straight -in?

Call it "favorites" if you want I call it separating planes.
 
I've had both of the following on more than one occasion....
SWA well behind us so they slow us for "sequence" and we watch them pass us as we are very slow and then we have to go to landing config early to maintain sep...

we were on a flow delay MRY to SFO and told them we would wait on the ground rather than hold, to help them, then we blasted off and had to hold for a SWA to go by...we easily could have just maxed forward speed and arrived ahead with good sep...
doesn't happen to me anymore LOL
 
I've had both of the following on more than one occasion....
SWA well behind us so they slow us for "sequence" and we watch them pass us as we are very slow and then we have to go to landing config early to maintain sep...

we were on a flow delay MRY to SFO and told them we would wait on the ground rather than hold, to help them, then we blasted off and had to hold for a SWA to go by...we easily could have just maxed forward speed and arrived ahead with good sep...
doesn't happen to me anymore LOL

See that is just stupid they created more work for you and for themselves by doing those things, I don't get that. In my departure/arrival(above 10k) sequence SWA is probably going to be number #2 to anything not a E145/CRJ1/CRJ2(because a B737 will out perform them if needed) because I think they have some stupid company policy of 266 kts IAS unless assigned something different, I guess for fuel efficiency or something (their pilots hate it from my experience). I kept having them slow when descending out of the flight levels so I asked them WTF?
 
I've had both of the following on more than one occasion....
SWA well behind us so they slow us for "sequence" and we watch them pass us as we are very slow and then we have to go to landing config early to maintain sep...

we were on a flow delay MRY to SFO and told them we would wait on the ground rather than hold, to help them, then we blasted off and had to hold for a SWA to go by...we easily could have just maxed forward speed and arrived ahead with good sep...
doesn't happen to me anymore LOL



BTW what do you fly?
 
To answer the question of the OP, if you are talking to Cape Approach, the correct answer is Cape Air. I think I've been slowed to 150 knots over LFV before, going to ACK.

Heheheh...

Don't feel bad. Those Potomac bastards always spin us around for the jets down here. In BOS it's another story. :D

(Damnit, I just lost my "direct LRP" privileges for a week...)
 
Heheheh...

Don't feel bad. Those Potomac bastards always spin us around for the jets down here. In BOS it's another story. :D

(Damnit, I just lost my "direct LRP" privileges for a week...)

Sorry man I just don't see it working out with the traffic this time around.:dunno:
 
On the other hand if I know you from JC you get priority service ask Dasleben!


Apparently I have a recognizable voice because he always picks up that it's me.
 
Apparently I have a recognizable voice because he always picks up that it's me.

Pretty easy to identify individual controllers when you've flown out of BWI 209384098234 times like I have. :bandit:
 
If anyone ever wondered why it seems like something like the above happens (I.E. Cape Air first into ACK) there are multiple reasons.

1. I would say on average the chances of you following a Cape Air into ACK are about even with your chances of following anyone else because they have more flights. I can't count the stories I have heard about people complaining "how come SWA went first!!!!" into BWI, when they fail to realize while they did follow a SWA into the airport there were 4 that followed them. Just plain odds folks.

2. controller knowledge: By this I mean if plane A is an unknown/wildcard and plane B is from a carrier you are familiar with and know will most likely comply with non-standard requests they are going be offered the opportunity to do it.


Let's put it this way, one airline I regularly work if I ask them to base it up tight for traffic to follow on the straight in will consistently base at 7-8 miles(thanks for nothing)

Another airline I work when given the same request will base it up on 3-4 mile final sometimes tighter.

Guess which airline goes in front of the straight-in and which one stays on the downwind to follow the straight -in?

Call it "favorites" if you want I call it separating planes.

The problem is my a/c goes 200 in level flight, which is about 50 knots more than the Cape Air 402's. We could easily pass 3 or 4 airplanes, but god forbid they give Cape Air a speed reduction. Its also very amusing some of the "VFR" flying that happens out there.....oh well.
 
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