Which Regional

Growth will soon be ending at PSA (assuming no more aircraft announcements) with rumors that AA wants us to increase our flow to mainline. A flow increase is more likely once all growth deliveries have been made.

Currently Envoy has the highest flow rate I believe. Not sure about flow time though. Based on current data a new hire at PSA will take ~9 years to get to mainline. People flowing today have only been on property ~5.5 years.
 
At my jetblue interview they said the top regionals they hire from were OO and 9E.

At my Delta interview the only regional pilots were OO and 9E.

I do believe there is a reputation of regionals with hiring and going to a regional with a good healthy reputation that constantly moves their pilots to legacies and majors is probably somewhere I would want to go. Granted the hiring boom seems to be starting and "competitive" might be looking different now.

The only concern I have with the AA wholly owned's is what is the flow time really at? Because all my friends there say new hires are being lied to by recruiters. I know the Envoy group isn't very happy about their contract and is told to pound sand because of the flow. So being there 8-9 years would be brutal to suggest to someone. PSA pay rates are certainly pretty nice. As someone said they all have pros and cons, base is important. But I wouldn't say they're all the same because certainly some are a lot harder to move on than others IMO.

My list would have to be Skywest, Republic, Endeavor or any AA wholly owned's if I gave my 2 cents...
 
tcco94 said:
At my jetblue interview they said the top regionals they hire from were OO and 9E.

At my Delta interview the only regional pilots were OO and 9E.
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If this is true it's got to make anyone looking to go to the regionals pause and seriously consider their options. I wish there was more information about this. For awhile I've heard a regional (for the most part) is a regional when it comes to opportunities at the next levels. If a bias exists that's serious news.
 
86BravoPapa said:
If this is true it's got to make anyone looking to go to the regionals pause and seriously consider their options. I wish there was more information about this. For awhile I've heard a regional (for the most part) is a regional when it comes to opportunities at the next levels. If a bias exists that's serious news.
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That was just an observation I made and what I was told specifically at an interview. I don't think there is a straight bias, but certainly know some regionals struggle to get pilots out compared to others. Which honestly makes me think that's why those places starting coming up with new recruiting tools as far as "career growth" over the last year. Because less people were interested. I mean the research is out there on the internet.

I mean certainly we know they're not all the same. That's what I'm getting at. I don't agree with that comment previously made. The pilot quality sure. I don't think one regional over another has "better" pilots.
 
The retirement wave is just beginning and doesn’t even hit its stride for a few more years. Get in somewhere that works for you and start building experience while keeping your record clean. And start applying immediately to where you’d like to spend your career. We’ve already seen some interesting things with some of the interview/hiring decisions. Don’t think for a second that you “need 1,000 TPIC” etc.
 
chrisreedrules said:
The retirement wave is just beginning and doesn’t even hit its stride for a few more years. Get in somewhere that works for you and start building experience while keeping your record clean. And start applying immediately to where you’d like to spend your career. We’ve already seen some interesting things with some of the interview/hiring decisions. Don’t think for a second that you “need 1,000 TPIC” etc.
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This. TPIC time is definitely valuable, but it isn't the be-all in getting hired at a major carrier. They look for someone well-rounded and who is advancing themselves. There's a reason why "1,000 TPIC is preferred" or a not mentioned at all for the major carriers. That said, the majority of new hires are going to have at least some TPIC, but like chrisreedrules says, with the way things are going, it's going to be less important as the applicant pool thins.
 
As a side note, I'm at an AA wholly-owned regional and am very glad I did it. I live in base which is a huge QOL improvement, but I'm also, at minimum, gaining a decent chunk of seniority from senior captains flowing or leaving for other flying jobs. I have no intention of staying for flow, but knowing that if all else fails, there is a decent chance I'll have the opportunity to fly for a legacy carrier someday.
 
I’m at one of those AA wholly-owneds. I got hired at the right time it seems (Jan 2017). I lived in base as an FO and had a descent QOL. I upgraded at around 19 months and just got selected for LCA at 3 years on property.

According to best estimates I still have ~3.5-4 years until I flow based off current numbers. My goal is to get to one of the big three (AA included) before that date. May the odds be ever in your favor!

Guys now are sitting reserve for about a year and upgrade is probably closer to 2-2.5 years.
 
The original AA W/O (no offense to the other AA W/O). Insufficient information to recommend or not recommend it to you.
Lots of pros, many cons, know what you are getting into and it can be a great place. Show up blind, embrace the suck.
 
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