Which regional will hang up their wings?

wheelsup said:
What's relevant is attrition only hiring.
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This is only being done through the next few months and has always been done this way at XJT.

Plans for 2008 are 800 new hires. This comes directly from our crew resource manager.

Attrition? Yeah..

What's you "beef" with ExpressJet if you dont mind me asking?
 
meritflyer said:
Plans for next year are 800 new pilots.

Attrition? Yeah..
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They are planning on losing 800 pilots next year? Or do they think they will obtain a new codeshare with 40+ more aircraft?

No beef, I'm this way about my company too. We had almost our entire training department go back to the line for almost half a year at one point.
 
mtsu_av8er said:
Hehehe - the ONLY thing I'm putting in PBS next month is those days off. Anything else, I'll just accept!

;)
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I did the same thing. As #66 FO, I SHOULD get it. We'll just have to wait and see. The PBS system here has a tendency to go a little "whacky" b/c we're so understaffed. It's goal is to cover flying first, pilot preferences second. Which is why the #1 guy in seniority is ready to kill people.
 
wheelsup said:
They are planning on losing 800 pilots next year? Or do they think they will obtain a new codeshare with 40+ more aircraft?
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I cant speak for why they came up with that number but my best estimate would be losing a bundle of CA's like we have been over the last 2 years. We've averaged a loss of about 40-50 pilots a month. This is not expected to stop any time soon. Especially with USAir, CAL, United, jetBlue, and other major carriers hiring. Upgrades are steady at about 18 months right now. Obviously that number can and will change.

We hired almost 900 this year with 200-300 still in training and guess what? We didnt obtain any new codeshare or aircraft. Still the 274 we've always had just under different allocation.
 
WTF is the PBS system??

Probably Bull S**t??
Pretty Bitchin' Stuff?
Potentially Bad Schedule?

If it's the latter - we have that here in spades! :D

Steve: You're already #6 FO?? Hell, I am too.......from the bottom! ;) (actually, #8 from the bottom on the CRJ in DFW).
 
ready2fly said:
Steve: You're already #6 FO?? Hell, I am too.......from the bottom! ;) (actually, #8 from the bottom on the CRJ in DFW).
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66. There's another six up there. And that's in MEM. I'm about 170 overall counting MSP and DTW. Still not bad for less than 2 years. If I were to upgrade and hold MEM (ha!), I'd be on the bottom of the CA list. I'd be like #4 from the bottom in DTW and #3 from the bottom in MSP. That's not counting some of the guys that are either on IOE or in upgrade class right now, though.

No more upgrades out of training here, either. They just tossed out a 100 hour Pinnacle minimum. The trade off is that they also said that they have the right to "reduce or waive experience requirements in order to fill a vacancy."
 
Cool. I'd be able to hold a line in ORD, but....that's ORD. :p

I'm actually about 4 or 5 from holding a line here (finally!). As it is, I've got a composite line this month - which is sweet (77 guaranteed hours of flying with only 4 reserve days - looks like I'll fly about 85 hours though :bandit: ).
 
Eagle is the only Regional Airline that I'd say you could make a career out of. And even thats not 100%. But definitey, Eagle is the place to go if you want job security, QOL, and don't really care about upgrading or going to a Major.
 
I'm even gonna toss out an honorable mention on this poll: Compass. They're woefully lagging behind in the benchmarks on where they're supposed to be at this point. They were supposed to be flying months ago, and I think they're just NOW getting 2 EMB-175s. I know I've seen one, but I've never seen more than one at a time. The -200 they had is back at XJT now, I think. At least I've seen a couple of -200s in MSP with XJ at the end of the tail number. Compass may still be flying the other one.

The catch to the flow through agreement is this: you have to be at Compass for 30 months. We all know the story of Pinnacle (aka Express Airlines I) and how NWA bought them only to sell them off for a nice, tidy profit. If it worked once, it'll work again. IMO, one of two things is gonna happen. Compass is gonna get spun off in an IPO to generate cash for NWA, OR they're gonna get folded into Mesaba to make a nice, neat, single wholly owned.....then they'll BOTH get spun off later.

Either way, wouldn't surprise me if it happened prior to the 30 month mark so those pilots lured for a flow through get hung out to dry. Mid-Atlantic anyone?
 
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