Which regional will hang up their wings?

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meritflyer

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Given some very interesting times amongst regional carriers like Skywest, ASA, ExpressJet, Mesa, Colgan, and Pinnacle, I've often wondered which will be the next regional to throw in the towel or be bought out (ASA excluded).

I know nobody can predict the future but I thought I'd be an interesting poll since I have had people who I went through groundschool with quit because they thought ExpressJet is going out of business in the next few years given our relationship with Continental.

Poll away and discuss.
 
Just out of curiosity, why has everyone put Mesa?

They seem to be awarded new flying/aircraft by their partners constantly, have a decent fleet, and have a diversified network of customers.
 
It could be ASA. . .But. . .if a contract is faithfully negotiated and finalized, I would start looking elsewhere. It'd be a sign from ASA/Skywest management that they actually do plan on keeping ASA around if they finalize a contract. If they don't, and crews begin to strike. . .expect scab central to be Atlanta, GA.

Big question remains to be answered. If ASA were to be liquidated, and no longer around, who would pick up the 50 seat lift coming out of/into Atlanta?

I doubt any regional out there right now could come anywhere close, even a combined effort by say XJT, SKW, PNCL, Republic couldn't pick up the lift.

So, with that being said. . .I won't vote. There are two situations. One is a negotiated contract finalized - hinting at further use of ASA out of Atlanta. One is no contract, ever, and crews strike, scabs come in from somewhere. . .(but where really?) . . . and SKW liquidates ASA, parking planes in the dirt.
 
Mesa? Republic? WTF people?

The only two with a remote chance of "folding up shop" are ASA and XJT.

ASA because of the SKW takeover and XJT if the "branded" flying goes tango-uni.
 
meritflyer said:
Just out of curiosity, why has everyone put Mesa?

They seem to be awarded new flying/aircraft by their partners constantly, have a decent fleet, and have a diversified network of customers.
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I think the cool thing to do on the net these days is to say that Mesa is the worst thing out there and is a sinking ship, even if one has no real first hand experience, or factual information. Thus, the popular Mesa vote... buncha cool people out there!
 
surreal1221 said:
It could be ASA. . .But. . .if a contract is faithfully negotiated and finalized, I would start looking elsewhere. It'd be a sign from ASA/Skywest management that they actually do plan on keeping ASA around if they finalize a contract. If they don't, and crews begin to strike. . .expect scab central to be Atlanta, GA.

Big question remains to be answered. If ASA were to be liquidated, and no longer around, who would pick up the 50 seat lift coming out of/into Atlanta?

I doubt any regional out there right now could come anywhere close, even a combined effort by say XJT, SKW, PNCL, Republic couldn't pick up the lift.

So, with that being said. . .I won't vote. There are two situations. One is a negotiated contract finalized - hinting at further use of ASA out of Atlanta. One is no contract, ever, and crews strike, scabs come in from somewhere. . .(but where really?) . . . and SKW liquidates ASA, parking planes in the dirt.
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Chris_Ford said:
Mesa? Republic? WTF people?

The only two with a remote chance of "folding up shop" are ASA and XJT.

ASA because of the SKW takeover and XJT if the "branded" flying goes tango-uni.
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Sorry folks, it won't be ASA, and I'm not saying that because I share an avid passion with the Delta bridge regional.

ASA is a cash cow, for both SKYW and Delta. Both wouldn't allow it to go TU. Even with all ASA's many problems, they're still making mondo cash hand over fist. Do the research.

ASA ain't goin' no where, not anytime soon!
 
CamYZ125 said:
I think the cool thing to do on the net these days is to say that Mesa is the worst thing out there and is a sinking ship, even if one has no real first hand experience, or factual information. Thus, the popular Mesa vote... buncha cool people out there!
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Well, did they fix their issues with United, their biggest customer? If they don't get that under control, and quick. Then in I hear (not speaking with authority) that they could in fact be in a great world of hurt!
 
From an "online" source:

XJT MEC Chairman’s Update
September 11, 2007

Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. This is MEC Chairman Bill Dressler with an update for Tuesday Sept. 11, 2007. There are two items for review.

Item 1: Flight Instructor Furloughs Back to the Line.

Late last week, ExpressJet management advised your MEC that the Company needed to furlough both Flight and Ground Instructors back to the line. The Company indicated that all instructors would first have the option to request a leave of absence from the Training Department to temporarily return to line flying. Judging from previous reductions in the department, there would stillbe a need to furlough some of the instructors back to the line.

To be clear, these instructor furloughs, similar to those that have happened in the recent past, do not entail any furloughs of pilots. The main reasons indicated for the furloughs is (1) the reduction in pilot hiring anticipated as a result of the preliminary block hours for 2008 given to ExpressJet by Continental and (2) the fact that the Company has continued to hire over 80 pilots per month although we have not taken delivery of any new aircraft since June of 2006. In the past, the preliminary block hour numbers provided by Continental have often been significantly revised; nonetheless, the Company felt the need to prepare as if these numbers will hold true. Although no pilot furloughs are anticipated, the recent rate of hiring more than 80 pilots a month is expected to be reduced to approximately 15-30 pilots a month, in the months hiring occurs. Obviously, this is subject to change but I anticipate this will continue for the next six months. Management will be hiring strictly to cover attrition as opposed to increasing staffing. Although this temporary slowdown will be hard on furloughed instructors, as well as affected pilots, I am hopeful it will also provide an important opportunity for the Company to address the problems that continue to plague aspects of our operation and to plan for future growth.

The XJT ALPA Flight Instructor representatives are currently working with management to reduce the number of instructor furloughs needed, minimize the impact on those furloughed, and plan for their quickest possible return. In the meantime, please help us to welcome these brother and sister pilots back to the line where we can all learn from their wealth of knowledge, skill and experience.

Capt. Bill Dressler
Chairman
ExpressJet Master Executive Council
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...and finally! This thread wreaks of the The National Enquirers annual who's gay in Hollywood issue.

Think that I'm out, before the stench permeating in this thread becomes too repugnant or a.net-ish!

:)
 
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