juskl
Well-Known Member
For Az pilots, the Scottsdale FSDO does all initial CFI checkrides (the benefit is that there is no examiner fee which is now 800.00 for CFI-A with a DPE). The only time a DPE will now do initials is if the FSDO gets too slammed and there is an agreement letter with the specific DPE that is temporarily doing CFI initials.
The reason for doing any other ride prior to the CFI, is that in theory it is supposed to be easier... in theory.. And that way a DPE can finish up the other rides. The FSDO's out there realized that the quality of instructors and that of DPE's doing CFI initials was terrible. In some cases, "the fix was in". As long as the examiner got the money, the ride was a pass (pending a near death experience). Not true in all cases mind you. When year hear of one CFI oral lasting 2 hours and another 8. Something is up. You could say it was because the 8 hour applicant didn't know his stuff... and generally was not the case. The two hour guy/gal just got an examiner that was very easy. So they wanted to beef up the quality of the exam.. and read the difficulty of it as well.
So this has been a sort of end run around the FSDO to try to make a CFI checkride easier. Long story short, if you are prepared, then you will do fine. I don't see this as a bad thing (as someone who sends CFI candidates to checkrides). Quality is quality..
Now to address the order of things. Imagine going into a CFII checkride after about a year of teaching pilots at both the Private and Commercial level. Your II should be a breeze. You already now how to teach and have experience under your belt. You will be that much better. Then to bump that up to MEI later on.. again, You are already an experienced instructor, you are just adding a new skill set to it. And your quality of instruction will be that much better. You can't rush that.
Our school, our rules. Don't like it, go some place else. That simple. And yes, there is an insurance issue. But also we have been doing this for 30 years and our higher ups know what works.. from experience. If you want to rocket up and build multi time to move on to your next stage of flying as fast as possible, don't teach with us. Because we do not care. We care about teaching pilot's of all levels. And we care about customer service and giving students a quality education. Not multi-crew proceedures with a new CFI in a multi that doesn't have any experience. Most of us have been around for a while and this is our second career. www.aerobatics.com check us out. We teach it all. But we do not want to make your flying easy, we want to give you the best education we can, that gives you the greatest set of tools to handle yourself and know what you are doing in the sky and on the ground.
Good luck with it all.
The reason for doing any other ride prior to the CFI, is that in theory it is supposed to be easier... in theory.. And that way a DPE can finish up the other rides. The FSDO's out there realized that the quality of instructors and that of DPE's doing CFI initials was terrible. In some cases, "the fix was in". As long as the examiner got the money, the ride was a pass (pending a near death experience). Not true in all cases mind you. When year hear of one CFI oral lasting 2 hours and another 8. Something is up. You could say it was because the 8 hour applicant didn't know his stuff... and generally was not the case. The two hour guy/gal just got an examiner that was very easy. So they wanted to beef up the quality of the exam.. and read the difficulty of it as well.
So this has been a sort of end run around the FSDO to try to make a CFI checkride easier. Long story short, if you are prepared, then you will do fine. I don't see this as a bad thing (as someone who sends CFI candidates to checkrides). Quality is quality..
Now to address the order of things. Imagine going into a CFII checkride after about a year of teaching pilots at both the Private and Commercial level. Your II should be a breeze. You already now how to teach and have experience under your belt. You will be that much better. Then to bump that up to MEI later on.. again, You are already an experienced instructor, you are just adding a new skill set to it. And your quality of instruction will be that much better. You can't rush that.
Our school, our rules. Don't like it, go some place else. That simple. And yes, there is an insurance issue. But also we have been doing this for 30 years and our higher ups know what works.. from experience. If you want to rocket up and build multi time to move on to your next stage of flying as fast as possible, don't teach with us. Because we do not care. We care about teaching pilot's of all levels. And we care about customer service and giving students a quality education. Not multi-crew proceedures with a new CFI in a multi that doesn't have any experience. Most of us have been around for a while and this is our second career. www.aerobatics.com check us out. We teach it all. But we do not want to make your flying easy, we want to give you the best education we can, that gives you the greatest set of tools to handle yourself and know what you are doing in the sky and on the ground.
Good luck with it all.
good luck...