When you call in sick at your company...

Are you required to speak to your chief pilot? Is that legal?


I'd say "GET A UNION" but I think you already know that.:insane:

Here we just have to call scheduling and tell them. Our CPs have been calling people who have been out for more then a week, but that is a new thing as we are just so short they want people back

(side note: typical company philosophy here. they want to get something out of their pilots so instead of being nice to them they hit them over the head with a bigger stick.)
 
The one time I called in sick at Colgan I was required to send in a doctor's note. It was a random day in September, nowhere close to a holiday. As an overkilled response I had a VP of a hospital fax them a note for me. Thanks mom-in-law! :D - Take that Gina!
 
Nope, just scheduling. And we only need a doctor's note on holidays and high call-in times, like Super Bowl weekend, and THAT was just recently b/c of a bunch of dumbasses abusing the policy. Most of the crazy stuff we have here (bereavement leave, for example) is due to people abusing the system. If you have a family member die, you need all kinds of documentation, thanks to the guys that apparently had a plague in their family in order to get extra days off....
 
Nope, just scheduling. And we only need a doctor's note on holidays and high call-in times, like Super Bowl weekend, and THAT was just recently b/c of a bunch of dumbasses abusing the policy. Most of the crazy stuff we have here (bereavement leave, for example) is due to people abusing the system. If you have a family member die, you need all kinds of documentation, thanks to the guys that apparently had a plague in their family in order to get extra days off....

Great post!
 
Yup-we gotta call CP sometimes. I don't know why sometimes and not others. It didn't used to be like this.
 
I call crew scheduling, give them my name and employee number, they confirm "Ok, we'll show you 'sick', please call in well when you're better"

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Yep...last two times I called in sick, it was a 20 second call with a "get better" at the end. No call to/from the chief pilot or anyone else.......
 
Yup-we gotta call CP sometimes. I don't know why sometimes and not others. It didn't used to be like this.

We don't have to Omar. It is not in policy. I have heard of screw support telling someone to call their CP, said person says 'ok' hangs up and never calls CP :)
 
Are you required to speak to your chief pilot? Is that legal?

Why would it not be legal?

It's generally an intimidation tactic where it's used and normally only for people or circumstances where being sick is "unusual", super-bowl weekend, holiday, lot of sick calls etc. Once you say you're sick you can't back down (like fatigued), if you're sick then you're sick, you can't suddenly not be sick once you talk to a CP, because either you were lieing originally or now you're flying sick - either of which raises more problems than it solves. What they're trying to do is intimidate you into not calling next time.
 
The one time I called in sick at Skywest, I had been sick for 3 days of a 4 day trip and my ears felt like they were about to bleed. I had a two hour break in ORD and just called crew support and said I was sick and I'm done. They positive spaced not to where I was based (SLC) but got me on the next flight to where I live (PHX) despite every seat on the plane being full with two jumps up front. At AMF it was the same deal with zero grief. Call up dispatch and say "I'm sick", and they're like "you're off the schedule, call us when you get better".
 
We don't have to Omar. It is not in policy. I have heard of screw support telling someone to call their CP, said person says 'ok' hangs up and never calls CP :)


So your telling me when I called in sick and they told me to call the cheif it didn't happen?

Your saying that the post made on sapaforums.org about this issue didn't exist?

Are you telling me that when my dad passed away 6 weeks ago and I called crew scheduling to tell them I couldnt fly my trip they didn't tell me to call my cheif?

It's not in policy? What policy? We dont have one. The company decides what to do and when to do it. Your policy manual is worthless. They are not obligated to follow any of those policies. It is not a legal binding contract. In fact, we got an email a while ago saying that people were complaining about the weight of all their jepps and manuals. The companies response was that they could take out the policy manual because it's not required to be carried with you. Thats shows a lot about what they think about the policy manual.

sorry if I sound a little irritable. I had sim session 4 last night and we hit a mountain because my FO didn't set the proper missed approach altitude. "caution terrain, caution terrain, whoop whoop pull up". Red screen. "Did you set 7000 like I ASKED you to? ahhh. ahhh......
 
No worries for sounding irritable. First of all, I am sorry to hear about your father.

I'm not saying these things don't exist - they do. All I meant by my original post was exactly what you said. The folks at CS make up stuff as they see fit such as trying to make us call our CP.

No one should feel threatened by CS by having to the call the CP if we don't need to. The few times I have called in it was a no worries call. Told them I was sick and no questions were asked.
 
I called in recently and they told me to call my CP when I got a chance. I never called and I didn't hear anything else about it.
 
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