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xdashdriver
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I highly doubt it would affect the program in the sense that they would stop running it, but would potentially greatly affect the chances of Mesa interviewing you right away if pilots are furloughed as a result of a US Airways liquidation.
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aloft
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If Mesa isn't hiring, there's no sense in doing the PACE program, since the only thing of value it buys you is the interview at the end. Other airlines won't touch you with only 300 TT unless you've done an internship with them. MAPD/PACE allows you to skip the CFI/freight hauling phase most people do to build sufficient time for an airline job.
What's in it for Mesa, you ask? For starters, it minimizes wasted training dollars on people who wash out of training since MAPD/PACE'rs have already been through the CRJ systems course Mesa's newhires go through, and thus aren't as likely to bomb out there since they've been exposed to (and tested on) all the material before. It also maximizes MAG's training dollars in that a low-time pilot will be in the right seat longer than a higher-time pilot who's already met the mins for their ATP cert (1500 TT, 500 XC, IIRC) and might upgrade to the left seat sooner.
Presuming Mesa's hiring pace keeps up, PACE is a no-brainer, particularly for us older peeps staring at a flying career half as long as the 20 yr old Riddle grads. If US Airways tanks and a huge chunk of Mesa's business with it, all bets are off.
What's in it for Mesa, you ask? For starters, it minimizes wasted training dollars on people who wash out of training since MAPD/PACE'rs have already been through the CRJ systems course Mesa's newhires go through, and thus aren't as likely to bomb out there since they've been exposed to (and tested on) all the material before. It also maximizes MAG's training dollars in that a low-time pilot will be in the right seat longer than a higher-time pilot who's already met the mins for their ATP cert (1500 TT, 500 XC, IIRC) and might upgrade to the left seat sooner.
Presuming Mesa's hiring pace keeps up, PACE is a no-brainer, particularly for us older peeps staring at a flying career half as long as the 20 yr old Riddle grads. If US Airways tanks and a huge chunk of Mesa's business with it, all bets are off.
aloft
New Member
Your guess is as good as mine. It's not like U mgt are planning on going into Ch. 7 bankruptcy.
Don't get me wrong, PACE is still a good plan (it's still one of mine). You can't plan your life around all the "what ifs", you'd never get anywhere. As much as JO is despised among pilots, he's a shrewd businessman. Mesa isn't going anywhere and will survive--perhaps even thrive within--the industry shakedown going on right now.
Not that Mesa should be your ONLY plan; pursuing an internship at someplace like SkyWest would be a smart thing, too.
(p.s., see? I can be a positive influence too! Note that I haven't Mormon-bashed in this entire thread!)
Don't get me wrong, PACE is still a good plan (it's still one of mine). You can't plan your life around all the "what ifs", you'd never get anywhere. As much as JO is despised among pilots, he's a shrewd businessman. Mesa isn't going anywhere and will survive--perhaps even thrive within--the industry shakedown going on right now.
Not that Mesa should be your ONLY plan; pursuing an internship at someplace like SkyWest would be a smart thing, too.
(p.s., see? I can be a positive influence too! Note that I haven't Mormon-bashed in this entire thread!)
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Just be careful over at Mesalounge. There's a lot of good info over there, and there are a lot of haters. Personally, I think they would be happy with nothing less than a $50/hr raise and a personal apology from Ornstein for not delivering on everything they dreamed of. But, like I said, if you can weed the good from the bad, it's good stuff. It's also likely the first place you can catch any rumours.
Here's my plan in a nutshell: finish my Comm ME (eventually), spend some time flying around locally to stay current, go to PACE in April. IF Mesa stops hiring (they supposedly have contingencies in place if US Air goes Tango Uniform), I'll go to ATP and get my CFI ratings out of the way and hopefully latch on with them as an instructor. There's really no program that you can get the training at PACE and apply it towards an interview with several airlines. Even CHQ is kinda shaky right now due to industry "re-alignment."
Here's my plan in a nutshell: finish my Comm ME (eventually), spend some time flying around locally to stay current, go to PACE in April. IF Mesa stops hiring (they supposedly have contingencies in place if US Air goes Tango Uniform), I'll go to ATP and get my CFI ratings out of the way and hopefully latch on with them as an instructor. There's really no program that you can get the training at PACE and apply it towards an interview with several airlines. Even CHQ is kinda shaky right now due to industry "re-alignment."