meritflyer
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Screaming_Emu said:
Maybe it is?? In my situation, the internal components of the 310 engine were toast.
What's your Worst/Scariest experience flying cargo?
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Maybe it is?? In my situation, the internal components of the 310 engine were toast.
OldTownPilot
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To each his own...N57 does not have much? flight time but has some experiences in a sim. Good job on the connections to fly those. Why cant he shere his experiences with in the sim with us? Or is a sim just fake flying? The FAA does not think so, and I don't think you, Meritflyer, should either. BTW, comgrats on the safe landing.
n57flyguy
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OldTownPilot said:
Thanks, I got that connection kind of stangly, out of the blue.
But I just thought when I posted that it s was pretty scary doing that, i didnt imply that Im the best IFR pilot in the world and could land a 747 below minimums with two engines out and a cross wind.
meritflyer
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n57flyguy said:
All I was saying bro was that a sim is hard to compare to the real world of IFR. Its cool that you got to fly a Gulfstream sim, but nothing to really brag about when guys like the Freight Dawgs put their life on the line everyday flying real airplanes in real weather.
And make it a chocolate chip cookie please. Next subject..
n57flyguy
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yes it is but thats not the point! I said it was scary doing something like that. it was a scary expirience, at the time. I also said I admire you guys for doing that, flying into horrible conditions and coming out alright, and I believe i said I admire you for doing that, I had respect for you and you just act like your some top gun pilot when all I was trying to say was it was scary doing that for the first time! And please, try not to be such a smart A$$. Next Subject....waht is that supposed to mean?meritflyer said:
Theotokos
New Member
I think the reason most pilots do not panic is because they know they have to say calm to save themselves. I mean I have never been in a dangerous situation, but I have been scared. I remember practicing stalls and saying, "Oh s***" when I stalled one wing before the other but I did not freak out or anything. I just added full rudder out of instinct and recovered. I think it is just an instinct that even us in training get--take action, do not panic. I mean I was in no danger as my CFI was beside me. I mean I am not trying to sound cocky or arrogant here. Just saying I think we alll--even students--know that the only way to save ourselves in a bad situation is to take action. I am responding to what was said earlier about pilots do not panic if it seems I am speaking a little off base.
meritflyer
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John Herreshoff said:
AMEN!
meritflyer
Well-Known Member
OldTownPilot said:
You cant get killed in a sim! As for the FAA counting it as real flight time, its true, they do but how many aviators do you know that lost their life flying one.
Think about it.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I'm going to explain a little bit more. When you've had any of the following things happen to you, you can start comparing stories with having to do a single engine approach to mins in IMC.
-Have a student put you in a departure stall...on departure 100' above the runway (happened last week)
-Have a complete electrical failure near a TFR in IMC, hoping that you can figure out where the VFR weather is without being shot down
-Having a vacum failure in IMC and having to get no gyro vectors to a no gyro approach
-Having a real engine failure directly after takeoff (happened to an instructor I know in a Seminole, talk about skills)
-Having a student freeze up on the controls in a spin
-Having a student passing through 55 knots with their nose up on their base to final turn, and not having a damned clue they're doing anything wrong (had that happen yesterday)
-Possibly having a Travel Air try to hit you twice in the same flight, when you're in the practice area (also happened yesterday).
-Having a Citation pull in front of you when you're on a 1/4" mile final, then you sidestep to the right (and tell him), then he decides to make his turn for departure at about 100', narrowly missing you in the process (had that one happen today)
Now I'll tell you, I've got some time in a B737 simulator, and I can assure you that all the above listed situations are way more intense than some sim time. I'm not trying to downplay your experience, but you're really comparing apples to Ford Explorers here.
-Have a student put you in a departure stall...on departure 100' above the runway (happened last week)
-Have a complete electrical failure near a TFR in IMC, hoping that you can figure out where the VFR weather is without being shot down
-Having a vacum failure in IMC and having to get no gyro vectors to a no gyro approach
-Having a real engine failure directly after takeoff (happened to an instructor I know in a Seminole, talk about skills)
-Having a student freeze up on the controls in a spin
-Having a student passing through 55 knots with their nose up on their base to final turn, and not having a damned clue they're doing anything wrong (had that happen yesterday)
-Possibly having a Travel Air try to hit you twice in the same flight, when you're in the practice area (also happened yesterday).
-Having a Citation pull in front of you when you're on a 1/4" mile final, then you sidestep to the right (and tell him), then he decides to make his turn for departure at about 100', narrowly missing you in the process (had that one happen today)
Now I'll tell you, I've got some time in a B737 simulator, and I can assure you that all the above listed situations are way more intense than some sim time. I'm not trying to downplay your experience, but you're really comparing apples to Ford Explorers here.
meritflyer
Well-Known Member
John Herreshoff said:
My point exactly. There are real life situations in aviation that require some real action and skill, not a reset button. Nice post John (seriously).
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I don't make sense often, but when I do I try to make sure I'm pwnting a 15 year old!
Seriously though I try not to flame too hard 'cause I used to be N57 like 7 years ago. Thankfully I eventually started listening to the people that told me to STFU and listen to what the dudes doing the flying had to say.
Seriously though I try not to flame too hard 'cause I used to be N57 like 7 years ago. Thankfully I eventually started listening to the people that told me to STFU and listen to what the dudes doing the flying had to say.
averyrm
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It seems to me, N57, you were trying to brag again about flying the GV sim, you got called on it (semi-harshly), and now you're being the jerk towards meritflyer who was merely expressing exasperation over you compairing your experience. It may have been scary but see the previous apples to ford explorers comment. It's scary to watch House on Haunted Hill (I know it's a horrible movie, but it creeps me out) but I wouldn't try to compare that to flying night freight.
Here's the deal, there are some topics on some threads that you aren't obligated to post on. It's cool you got to fly a sim, it's cool that you want to learn more about aviation, but posting advice and stories that aren't correct or relevent to anything doesn't aid the situation and gets people fired up (see above thread).
But what do I know, I just point planes in one direction for a living - I mean, I can't even watch bad B movies without jumping three feet in the air.
Here's the deal, there are some topics on some threads that you aren't obligated to post on. It's cool you got to fly a sim, it's cool that you want to learn more about aviation, but posting advice and stories that aren't correct or relevent to anything doesn't aid the situation and gets people fired up (see above thread).
But what do I know, I just point planes in one direction for a living - I mean, I can't even watch bad B movies without jumping three feet in the air.
meritflyer
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n57flyguy said:
No worries bro. Like it was said, to me atleast, its a sensitive subject when you talk about all of the freight, corporate, airline, CFI, and general aviators that have to deal with some god awful situations that are possibly life ending. Study hard on your aviation stuff. I commend your enthusiam about aviation. You'll make a good pilot one day.
EatSleepFly
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meritflyer said:
No doubt! Some of these crew cars are death traps!
