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Whoops, I almost forgot the Mooney has an ALT and not a GEN. Mooney could install an emergency battery and associated switch that could power a backup com and nav.

You can't always reach VMC. i.e. you don't notice the failed ALT and drain your batts. The nearest VMC is farther away than you have fuel for...
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Sorry I was thinking along the lines of GEN's....i.e. in my aircraft if we have a dual gen failure we are on backup power and all the MFD's are offline. Only giving us NAV 1, COM 1 and the peanut sized backups ADI, ALT, and ASI
 
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I really don't see a huge deal with this. Flying instruments from the opposite seat isn't really that difficult, just takes a little bit of getting used to.

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For those of us that have learned to fly from the right seat, it's not that big of a deal. Now, imagine that you're a 110-hour private pilot, instrument rated and you've never flown from the right seat. It's your third flight in IMC and you lose your MFD.

Now, how long should it take to get used to it?
 
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Honestly, all they had to do was move the right hand screen to be directly in front of the right seat, and put those standby insruments in the middle, thereby avoidong any problems. Doesn't anyone employ Ergonomics Engineers anymore!!!!!
 
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Like another poster said, the Mooney is only 3' wide, not like it's a B52. As Citation kid mentioned, where else would you put the standbys in the Mooney? There isn't any more open panel space. I would be more concerned at the lack of a TC or roll indexer. These are included in most PFDs. This leads me to believe that at least one screen will run on Emer backup.

Up until a few years ago NO single engine airplane had backup anything. If the vac pump failed you had an elec TC and a wet compass. None of this extra "sissy" stuff like dual vac pumps standby instruments and flat compass faces. And man continued to fly IFR none the less. And all without a GPS....Oh the humanity /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

There are backup batteries for the MFDs. With product liability laws these days, no lawyer is going to sign off on a design unless there are backups to the backups.

By the way, the radios are in the MFDs too.
 
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For those of us that have learned to fly from the right seat, it's not that big of a deal. Now, imagine that you're a 110-hour private pilot, instrument rated and you've never flown from the right seat. It's your third flight in IMC and you lose your MFD.

Now, how long should it take to get used to it?

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Good point. Could very well become an issue there.
 
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Could make move the panel up a little and put the standby's below the the displays....I think Cirrus does that...
 
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Could make move the panel up a little and put the standby's below the the displays....I think Cirrus does that...

[/ QUOTE ]The Cirrus has side stick controllers and engine controls between the seats. The Mooney has push rod yokes and crossover links between the two yokes behind the panel, as well as the engine controls. Panel shape and slope of the windshield/fwd fuselage dictate how high things can be moved in a panel. Some of the first gen EFIS in jets (even in the X) had to be set low in the panel because of the depth of the CRTs and the slope of the nose. Flat panel LCDs will help some though.
 
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