What's the point of King Air (High Peformance) training...

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Girls Girls, you're both pretty.

Now shut up.

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Now Jhugz, they are Chinese students that have gone through flying from private to an atp equivalent in a little over a year. They are going from a seminole to the king air the next day. There are a lot of learning curves and most students want to go back to what they're comfortable with. If we stick you in a 777 and tell you to autoland, you'll try to hand fly it from 30nm to touchdown. The grass is always greener... er... I think you were saying yours is the greenest in this fair land?
 
ProudPilot said:
Girls Girls, you're both pretty.

Now shut up.

jhugz Screaming_Emu

Now Jhugz, they are Chinese students that have gone through flying from private to an atp equivalent in a little over a year. They are going from a seminole to the king air the next day. There are a lot of learning curves and most students want to go back to what they're comfortable with. If we stick you in a 777 and tell you to autoland, you'll try to hand fly it from 30nm to touchdown. The grass is always greener... er... I think you were saying yours is the greenest in this fair land?
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As an instructor in the program they shouldn't let their students fly the thing like a skyhawk because next they jump into the right seat of a 737. Sorry just not buying the crap so far in this thread. you fly a king air like that you'll end up killing yourself in icing.
 
What do you mean by "flying the thing like a skyhawk"? Because I have no clue what you are talking about. I fly all planes the same.
 
jhugz said:
100 knots on a 10 mile final.
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Do you know what their profile is? What the flap and gear speed are? I know zero about a king air and their profiles but it was not uncommon to be 100-115 kts on a long final (8-10 miles) in the ATR to stay on profile.
 
jhugz said:
100 knots on a 10 mile final.
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That's probably because that's what the standardization manual says. They aren't teaching them just how to fly the King Air, half of their flying time in that airplane is Pilot Monitoring. They are teaching them to be good f/o minions. Now as to the merits of a King Air doing 100 that far out, I'm not a King Air pilot so I can't comment. As to the merits of standardization calling for the airplane to be flown needlessly below its performance envelope, well, I could say alot about that but I'd rather do it in PM.
 
Do I care what the profile is? Not really. Go fly that profile in moderate rime and let me know how it works out. Another example of blindly learning profiles instead of actual airmanship.
 
jhugz said:
Do I care what the profile is? Not really. Go fly that profile in moderate rime and let me know how it works out. Another example of blindly learning profiles instead of actual airmanship.
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Do you know the icing speed of the king air? How do you know they were in moderate rime?
I still don't get the whole "fly it like a skyhawk". I must be slow tonight, because like I said I fly all planes the same.
 
jhugz said:
Do I care what the profile is? Not really. Go fly that profile in moderate rime and let me know how it works out. Another example of blindly learning profiles instead of actual airmanship.
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Were they flying in moderate icing?
 
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