What's the point of King Air (High Peformance) training...
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Screaming_Emu
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There is a reason they are training in a king air. It's because they have not yet learned how to fly a king air. Hence why they are not yet up to your "I need to talk trash about people who are still in training so I can feel better about myself" standards.
Screaming_Emu
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Hey, it got you through, didn't it?
jhugz
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Yup that's why I'm hacking it single pilot with no autopilot in a metro. Just couldn't hang with you RJ guys.
Screaming_Emu
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Did nobody want to fly with you?
ProudPilot
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Girls Girls, you're both pretty.
Now shut up.
jhugz Screaming_Emu
Now Jhugz, they are Chinese students that have gone through flying from private to an atp equivalent in a little over a year. They are going from a seminole to the king air the next day. There are a lot of learning curves and most students want to go back to what they're comfortable with. If we stick you in a 777 and tell you to autoland, you'll try to hand fly it from 30nm to touchdown. The grass is always greener... er... I think you were saying yours is the greenest in this fair land?
Now shut up.
jhugz Screaming_Emu
Now Jhugz, they are Chinese students that have gone through flying from private to an atp equivalent in a little over a year. They are going from a seminole to the king air the next day. There are a lot of learning curves and most students want to go back to what they're comfortable with. If we stick you in a 777 and tell you to autoland, you'll try to hand fly it from 30nm to touchdown. The grass is always greener... er... I think you were saying yours is the greenest in this fair land?
Cessnaflyer
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It's only greener because it's full of shi... crap
jhugz
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As an instructor in the program they shouldn't let their students fly the thing like a skyhawk because next they jump into the right seat of a 737. Sorry just not buying the crap so far in this thread. you fly a king air like that you'll end up killing yourself in icing.
Cessnaflyer
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Whats wrong with that? King Air's can get pretty dang slow and still be safe. We've had to do that several times.
Gonzo
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Do you know what their profile is? What the flap and gear speed are? I know zero about a king air and their profiles but it was not uncommon to be 100-115 kts on a long final (8-10 miles) in the ATR to stay on profile.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
That's probably because that's what the standardization manual says. They aren't teaching them just how to fly the King Air, half of their flying time in that airplane is Pilot Monitoring. They are teaching them to be good f/o minions. Now as to the merits of a King Air doing 100 that far out, I'm not a King Air pilot so I can't comment. As to the merits of standardization calling for the airplane to be flown needlessly below its performance envelope, well, I could say alot about that but I'd rather do it in PM.
Gonzo
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Do you know the icing speed of the king air? How do you know they were in moderate rime?
I still don't get the whole "fly it like a skyhawk". I must be slow tonight, because like I said I fly all planes the same.
Cessnaflyer
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Were they flying in moderate icing?
gotWXdagain
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If this was any time in the last week, where on 10 mile final would they have found moderate rime?