What would you do?

Seggy said:
Yeah that makes a ton of sense. So when a conversation comes up saying that Doug Taylor is the President of the United States of America, because we are having that conversation it is true?
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Relax brother. Re read what i originally wrote, its pretty damn close.
 
Jtrain: I agree with you, jet PIC is just about as good as turboprop PIC.....I was simply saying that multiple type ratings are good, regardless if you have BE-1900 + SF-340 or CL-65 + EMB-145. Yes, I am well aware that the aircraft you mention require a type rating.....

Aside from that it really boils down to a pay vs. QOL issue in my opinion....I doubt this petty bickering helps Omar but in any event, that's my 2 cents, and I'll bow it....have at it....
 
Oh and back to the author. Hell no I wouldnt move if I have favorable scehdule, weekends off, and getting PIC time. If I was bored out of my mind, needed more money, and wanted to see more of the country I might bite.
 
Omar, like I said before, just stay put. If you're looking to get out quickly, it's the best way. However, I will second Seggy's comment. If you are looking for something more interesting or need a new challenge, call Dennis about the check airman thing. You'll definitely have to be instructing, but it'll look great on a resume and will present new challenges. It will also even out the captain pay between the Bro and the jet.
 
jdflight said:
If you are looking for something more interesting or need a new challenge, call Dennis about the check airman thing.
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Alford, Phil SLC CRJ Captain
Ali, Arshad SMF CRJ First Officer
Amin, Omar PSP EMB Captain
Bharath, Andy SLC CRJ Captain
Boehm, David PSP CRJ First Officer
Bredder, Brett COS CRJ Captain
Carley, Jon DEN CRJ Captain
Clapp, Rick ORD CRJ Captain
Cooper, Kyle FAT EMB Captain
Copeland, Erik ORD CRJ Captain
Cunningham, Shaun ORD CRJ Captain
de Freitas, Larry SLC CRJ First Officer
Dow, Steve COS CRJ Captain
Eyring, Chris SLC CRJ Captain
Gleser, Ramon DEN CRJ Captain
Goudge, Laura DEN CRJ First Officer
Hammond, Ridge SBP EMB Captain
Horst, Kurt ORD CRJ Captain
Hurst, Dan ORD CRJ First Officer
Ianiro, Jason ORD CRJ Captain
Jacobie, Russ FAT CRJ Captain
Jenks, Jesse SBP EMB Captain
Johnson, Marc ORD CRJ First Officer
Judge, Katie DEN EMB Captain
Koehler, Scott ORD CRJ First Officer
Kanuch, Steve DEN CRJ Captain
Konis, Jeremy TUS CRJ First Officer
Liddiard, Jeri Lyn SLC CRJ Captain
Lisak, Todd ORD CRJ First Officer
Madden, Warren FAT EMB Captain
Mansur, Riad ORD CRJ First Officer
McKelvey, Kris FAT EMB Captain
Michalek, Jeremy SLC CRJ First Officer
Miller, Adam ORD CRJ First Officer
Miller, Darris DEN CRJ Captain
Nostrom, Jeff SLC CRJ Captain
Orosco, Jim ORD CRJ Captain
Oweicki, Mike SMF CRJ Captain
Scamardella, Antonio ORD CRJ Captain
Sciaroni, Jeff FAT EMB Captain
Sessions, Curtis SLC CRJ Captain
Shrier, Tracy SLC CRJ Captain
Veuger, Pete SBA CRJ Captain
Walker, Allen FAT EMB Captain
Weichers, Clinton SLC CRJ Captain
Wimber, Tom COS CRJ First Officer


Silly rabbit- tricks are for kids.


Thanks, but I think that door has been shut. It's too bad, becuase I get a lot of people telling me I should be a CA. I think I would have made a good one.
 
I'll throw some logs on the fire:

Three out of the eight in my class at Alaska have never flown a jet. All were 121 captains with the required turbine PIC time. We were all at our previous jobs 5-7 years. I have a friend who just started at FedEx and he never flew the RJ. He was in the Bro for six years. I'm not sure if he was a checkairman either.

I agree with Bluto, stay put until you have the golden 1000 hrs of PIC, maybe even 1500, then go fly the jet. It'll be something new and different. You'll be able to fill another Jepp binder with new and exciting cities (especially those east of the Mississippi :insane: ).
 
Those east of the Mississippi require you to go through ORD. Don't do it, man! It's not worth it! ;)

Oh yeah, I forgot about that list.
 
mrivc211 said:
As a very wise old aviator once told me, the pecking order goes:

1. PIC Jet
2. PIC TP
3. SIC Jet
4. SIC TP
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Don't mean to pretend to be any wiser, but I would change it a little:


1. Who are the people recommending that kid? What is their reputation/position/quality of people they recommended previously?
2. Does he meet the mins?
3. What kind of person is that kid?


Do what makes you happier and MEET PEOPLE!!!
 
Got another one for ya...Would you leave a PIC 121 Jet Job for a SIC 121 Job, but in a "Heavy/Intl" airline...Keeping in mind the ultimate goal here would be a traditional legacy.
 
Kingairer said:
Got another one for ya...Would you leave a PIC 121 Jet Job for a SIC 121 Job, but in a "Heavy/Intl" airline...Keeping in mind the ultimate goal here would be a traditional legacy.
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I know of a CommutAir 1900 CA that turned down a position at ABX because she only had 400 PIC. She wanted to wait until she had 1500-2000 PIC turbine as insurance before going to that sort of setting. She didn't want to end up like the 18 year US Air FO's that had zero PIC time and 8000+ hours when furloughed and couldn't get a decent job.
 
"I know of a CommutAir 1900 CA that turned down a position at ABX because she only had 400 PIC"

I would say that was a huge bad decision. Does she regret it? Where is she now?
 
DE727UPS said:
"I know of a CommutAir 1900 CA that turned down a position at ABX because she only had 400 PIC"

I would say that was a huge bad decision. Does she regret it? Where is she now?
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In a way Don... I'm kind of surprized to hear you say that. You do tend to preach that people need more experience... and here we have a perfect example of someone who is choosing to gain more experience before flying much larger and more complicated aircraft, and also put her in a possibly better financial or marketable position with the PIC Turbine time in the case of a potential furlough at any point in her aviation career.

I can't argue though with the spirit of your post.

Bob
 
EDUC8-or said:
PIC turbine is PIC turbine. It's all about QOL, yes you might make more but having weekends off with no commute is hard to beat. You're not based in FAT are you?
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Nope. Did I mention I usually get to go home 4 nights a month during my 4 day trips because we overnight in my home city. The layover ranges from 15 hours to 21 so to me its like having a day off, even though I'm in the middle of a trip.

I once had it so that I had only 8 days off in the month, but with 8 SNA overnights, I was home 16 nights that month. Gotta know how to work the system to your advantage.
 
mrivc211 said:
Nope. Did I mention I usually get to go home 4 nights a month during my 4 day trips because we overnight in my home city. The layover ranges from 15 hours to 21 so to me its like having a day off, even though I'm in the middle of a trip.

I once had it so that I had only 8 days off in the month, but with 8 SNA overnights, I was home 16 nights that month. Gotta know how to work the system to your advantage.
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sounds like you've already made up your mind....
 
Chris_Ford said:
Oops. I am fairly sure those 402s in the MA operation used to be 121... But hey, I could be mistaken (again).

My bad :)
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WOW>>>>>121 experience in a 402, 9 pax piston prop job!!!! That means I have over 1000 hours 121 PIC time WHOOOHHHHOOO!!!!

ok sorry. Cape Air never had a 402 on a 121. All their 402s are 135. The ATRs operating in Guam are under the 121 certificate.

So Kellwolf, both. You just have to live 18+ hours by plane to anything not considered an island if you fly 121 for us.
 
Dude, stay in the Bro! Get your 1000PIC, or 1300 if you're thinking SWA, and then transition. You'll be able to have a better QOL if you wait too. I don't know about you but I keep hearing of a bunch of Bro Captains moving on to the majors.

But, I'll tell ya, the jet is fun and way different. When I was getting to class I kept thinking that I would want to upgrade into the Bro as soon as I could. Now that I am finished (a/c checkout tonight, over the lonely skies of Idaho) I think being a Capt in the RJ would be way better. But part of that is pay too. I'm going to have to revisit this thinking in a year. Who knows how I will feel and what the seniority list will look like then.

I'd stay if I were you though. And if you do, I'M LEAVING!
 
jdflight said:
Omar, like I said before, just stay put. If you're looking to get out quickly, it's the best way. However, I will second Seggy's comment. If you are looking for something more interesting or need a new challenge, call Dennis about the check airman thing. You'll definitely have to be instructing, but it'll look great on a resume and will present new challenges. It will also even out the captain pay between the Bro and the jet.
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I think JF is right. And I wouldn't let your aforementioned list of those who may be politically ill-aligned with the company get in the way of tosing your hat into the mix. They need Check Airmen right now. The worst part would be just having to deal with Dennis in your face all the time and his proclamation that he can call you anytime of the day or night, days off included.
 
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