What would it take for 'the regionals' to cease to exist?

PhilosopherPilot said:
Better pay, better stability. Go somewhere that the name on the paycheck matches the name on the plane.
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So a name on the plane that matches the paycheck eh?

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I don't know whether that recruiter was giving you bad info or what but newhires here start at $57,000. Most everyone on property makes around $100,000 plus bonus and stock.

As far as USAir, that ship has sailed unfortunately. They didn't have as friendly a recall policy as AA or DAL and I had to make the "take it or leave it" decision back in 07. Turned out I made a poor decision.

As far as the list I made many years ago... Yup, probably eating my words a bit. I'll be the first to admit it and discuss the reasons why I felt like I had to do it after the deed is done (probably in a chat rather than a thread - don't want to burn bridges by leaving a permanent record.) Right now I'm still in "decision" mode. It's a big impact to family, QOL, and paycheck so I'm not taking it lightly.

But I don't mean to hijack this thread. Back to your regularly scheduled topic...
 
Thanks for clearing that up Zap. Not sure what you are looking at for the future but I wish you the best.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
I can tank up the Bro and fly it LAX-DEN nonstop, but with like 4 people on board.
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For real empty, equpiment and everything out, I can 2000nm with reserves easy. But we don't fly it that way because it doesn't make any money. And you don't do long legs because that's not what your airplane was actually designed to do. This is a different conversation from regionals flying 70, 80, 90, 120 people around on Douglas routes.
 
z987k said:
For real empty, equpiment and everything out, I can 2000nm with reserves easy. But we don't fly it that way because it doesn't make any money. And you don't do long legs because that's not what your airplane was actually designed to do. This is a different conversation from regionals flying 70, 80, 90, 120 people around on Douglas routes.
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I used to do that in the metro fairly regularly. I think I flew that thing empty more than with cargo on it. AMF CVG is a different beast.
 
z987k said:
For real empty, equpiment and everything out, I can 2000nm with reserves easy. But we don't fly it that way because it doesn't make any money. And you don't do long legs because that's not what your airplane was actually designed to do. This is a different conversation from regionals flying 70, 80, 90, 120 people around on Douglas routes.
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We used to do SLC-SNA nonstop, revenue--before people got fat.

Some of the Arr Jay flying is Boeing routes. :(


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Jet said:
A stepping stone? Most of the captains I fly with make 90k+, live in the outstation base, 15-18 days off and haven't updated their logbook in at least 9 years or filled out a mainline app. The regionals use to be a stepping stone back in the day but after a stagnant decade with little major hiring a lot of lifers were created.
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agreed, most Capt. past the 10 year mark are not going anywhere...I'd say the top 500 pilots at RAH are not going anywhere (~3000pilots)
 
DE727UPS said:
If that's the case, how long does it take to make 80 at a regional? I'm gonna say 10 years. Also, a corporate background might allow a sideways move to better pay if flippin' Walmart can't pay better than 80K. I'd just hate to see him head for a regional with his background. I'm hoping I'm missing something.
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a lot of captains make that constantly by their 2nd-3rd year as Captain(6-8 years with company) most clear 100K by 9-10th year(with company)
the top ~200 pilots are clearing 120K easily with 18 days off (18+ with company)
 
So a pilot starting now, in 2013 can top $100K by 2023.

I'm not sure I'd call that winning.
 
Eeeeeeeyup.

Once upon a time. Ehhh, nevermind.

Man, I wonder if Long Island has a taco truck?
 
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