What to do about unfair competition from China?

mrivc211

mrivc211

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We can all mostly agree that the main cost of building an A/C is R&D, not actually building them one by one. Boeing and Airbus spend billions developing their airplanes and put tens of thousands of highly skilled, highly paid professionals to work. Not to mention the third party jobs created by these A/C.

Now here is China, basically stealing the R&D technology and building a DC-9.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/COMAC-Commerical-Aircraft-Corporation/COMAC-ARJ21-700/1641271/M/

How can companies compete when China waits for you to build it, then comes in and steals the blueprints?

Wings and tail are stolen from the CRJ, and the body is a DC-9.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/COMAC-Commerical-Aircraft-Corporation/COMAC-ARJ21-700/1557146/M/
 
The answer is nothing will be done.

The trade, even with it's obvious theft, is too valuable. The Chinese government can (politically) and will stand up to the U.S. should our leaders ever put their foot down.
 
Clocks said:
The answer is nothing will be done.

The trade, even with it's obvious theft, is too valuable. The Chinese government can (politically) and will stand up to the U.S. should our leaders ever put their foot down.
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Agree, nothing will be done. Especially with China holding so much of our debt.
 
There is an Airbus 320 line in Shanghai (or at least the notam said that one side of the airport is closed for A320 testing only and they build them somewhere else)

I also wanna say a Embraer or Canadair line is there too.
 
They bought the ability to produce a specified number of airframes under license and direction of MDC, not steal the intellectual property.

I've heard Russia is getting quite frustrated with China doing the same thing for some of their military hardware.
 
When two countries can't come to an agreement over money, they usually go to war. My UC professors all predicted that the road only leads to that path with China. The could not predict when, but said eventually it will happen. That prediction is looking more and more like reality.
 
War? Hah! How would we finance it? We sold a lot more than the DC-9 to the Chinese in exchange for big screens, hummers, and available credit.
 
In a purely military sense that would go over very badly for the Chinese assuming a conflict that stays conventional. They may have a huge army, but their navy is barely fit for a bathtub.

Now, the geopolitical issues in all that, who the heck knows.....
 
What would we even go to war over? Taiwan? We telegraphed to the Taiwanese that they're going to swing if it comes to it long ago. Even if we had the political will for a bodybag count that would make Iraq look like Grenada, we would commit economic suicide by doing so. The home front during a war between the US and China would look a lot like Haiti, except with more guns. In a few decades, when the illusion of a free Republic is finally dispelled, we might be able to field a conscript army and fight the chicoms to a stalemate via a biblical body count (Operation Poor Folks In Front), but I suspect we'll find it much more advantageous to play nice with the New World Order. Wars that involve ordinance are out of style, and we already lost the economic war in stunning style reminescent of the Spanish vs. the US or the French vs. the Germans. Learn Chinese.
 
Boris Badenov said:
War? Hah! How would we finance it? We sold a lot more than the DC-9 to the Chinese in exchange for big screens, hummers, and available credit.
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If we can't borrow it, we'll print it. Historically there were fewer wars before the invention of "elastic" money (refrence needed I know; I'll post it tomorrow if anyone cares). Diplomatic solutions were cheaper, now, nations just print what we need.
 
Yeah you can just print sheaves of pesos and tell your creditors to pound sand if you have an industrial base. We don't. Wal-Mart greeters and telemarketers don't build aircraft carriers. Face it, the US is a green-paper tiger.
 
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