What is the Best Electronic Logbook

MikeFavinger said:
Actually, I assume it's anyone in the military. There was a lengthy registration process through the NGA and there was no requirement to be a pilot come to think of it.
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Not tested, but I think if you can get to the NGA's .mil domain, you could get the DOD-purchased version of ForeFlight. There are actually a fair number of DOD flying civilians out there and contractors who could use ForeFlight as their FLIP instead of the paper products.
 
How do ya'll airlines guys log your flights ?

I was planning to do weekly entries but we fly three different airframes - 200, 700 & 900. While I can see logging them all together as CL 65 I can also see wisdom in logging the 200 separate from the 7&9 and though not likely to happen but I can even see some logic in logging them all separately in case I applied for a job one day that wanted specific time in one of those airframes.

I have logbook pro and tried to use their APDL thing, I guess I'm just dumb. I copied and pasted out of FLICA and nothing really transposed ? Is there any way to make it auto download your flights ?(which leads to mccPilotLog question...)

I tried to set up mccPilotLog but it wouldn't take a lot of my helicopter flights from out in the woods with made up landing zone names and when I tried to enter them into the database it wouldn't accept the coordinates ? Yes, I am aware it only takes a certain format and it would not take it. I could type in the Latitude in the right format but not the Longitude. I'd like to switch to MCC, just don't have the time to try and diagnose and trouble shoot at the moment.

thanks
 
CatchyScreenName said:
How do ya'll airlines guys log your flights ?

I was planning to do weekly entries but we fly three different airframes - 200, 700 & 900. While I can see logging them all together as CL 65 I can also see wisdom in logging the 200 separate from the 7&9 and though not likely to happen but I can even see some logic in logging them all separately in case I applied for a job one day that wanted specific time in one of those airframes.

I have logbook pro and tried to use their APDL thing, I guess I'm just dumb. I copied and pasted out of FLICA and nothing really transposed ? Is there any way to make it auto download your flights ?(which leads to mccPilotLog question...)

I tried to set up mccPilotLog but it wouldn't take a lot of my helicopter flights from out in the woods with made up landing zone names and when I tried to enter them into the database it wouldn't accept the coordinates ? Yes, I am aware it only takes a certain format and it would not take it. I could type in the Latitude in the right format but not the Longitude. I'd like to switch to MCC, just don't have the time to try and diagnose and trouble shoot at the moment.

thanks
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I had the same problems regarding little known/imaginary landing locations for my helicopter stuff (particularly the lat long.)

I kept trying based on the way THEY have it in and the way THEY recommended it.

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Probably not the answer you wanted, but as stated, I just kept trying and it went
 
Cool, no that's exactly the answer I was looking for - I'll keep trying. I've been having all kinds of small issues and thought maybe my 7 year old laptop was due for upgrade but since I'm not the only one who had that problem I'll keep working at it.
 
CatchyScreenName said:
How do ya'll airlines guys log your flights ?

I was planning to do weekly entries but we fly three different airframes - 200, 700 & 900. While I can see logging them all together as CL 65 I can also see wisdom in logging the 200 separate from the 7&9 and though not likely to happen but I can even see some logic in logging them all separately in case I applied for a job one day that wanted specific time in one of those airframes.

I have logbook pro and tried to use their APDL thing, I guess I'm just dumb. I copied and pasted out of FLICA and nothing really transposed ? Is there any way to make it auto download your flights ?(which leads to mccPilotLog question...)

I tried to set up mccPilotLog but it wouldn't take a lot of my helicopter flights from out in the woods with made up landing zone names and when I tried to enter them into the database it wouldn't accept the coordinates ? Yes, I am aware it only takes a certain format and it would not take it. I could type in the Latitude in the right format but not the Longitude. I'd like to switch to MCC, just don't have the time to try and diagnose and trouble shoot at the moment.

thanks
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I use the apdl.net on an internet browser and copy and paste from FLICA into apdl.net. From there it imports automatically into the APDL app.
If you find that too cumbersome, you can use the Check Schedulein the app. If you do all you do is just give the app your FLICA log in details. Push Check Schedule button, and your schedule automatically shows up in your APDL app.
You don't have to enter anything in the app during your trip. After you're done with you trip, you go back to apdl.net on an internet browser and download the .csv file of the flights you flew. Then you can import it and append the data to any logbook that uses csv (Excel, Logbook Pro, I assume LogTen Pro ) I use Logbook Pro. The APDL app logs it leg by leg, getting all the required info from open source flight trackers. Out, In, Tail number, it computes night time for you, so once you give APDL your schedule, you don't have to do anything other than to import it into your logbook program.

When I flew RJs, i just logged them as CR2, CR7, CR9, E135, E140, E145. That way I could break out all the different types of RJs. Same for the Airbus, logged as 319,320,321. On resumes and apps, I just lump them all together EMB-145, CL-65, A320 time.
 
I've been converting my paper logbook into LogTen Pro X (Mac desktop so no monthly fee). The interface is a bit 2005 but my understanding is it has integration into some regionals' systems like Skywest. If not for that I would probably go with Foreflight since I use it all the time and my friends love it.
 
Man... a lot of these (and their websites) look like they were designed in 2003 at the latest.
Have any of you tried "Excel Pilot Logbook"?
https://excelpilotlogbook.com/faa-america-pilot-logbook/
I guess it's literally just paying for $40 for a spreadsheet but it looks decent in the screenshots and I'll never have the time to learn how to do all that in excel. I'm not sure if I'm just being woo'd by their website design though.
 
I actually just bit the bullet and tried that Excel one, it might work for some of you but I don't see how it's going to work with helicopter and fixed wing. On that note, I'm not sure how well any of these are going to work for helicopter and airplane logbooks. Anyone dual rated that has any suggestions for e-logbooks?
 
woodreau said:
I use the apdl.net on an internet browser and copy and paste from FLICA into apdl.net. From there it imports automatically into the APDL app.
If you find that too cumbersome, you can use the Check Schedulein the app. If you do all you do is just give the app your FLICA log in details. Push Check Schedule button, and your schedule automatically shows up in your APDL app.
You don't have to enter anything in the app during your trip. After you're done with you trip, you go back to apdl.net on an internet browser and download the .csv file of the flights you flew. Then you can import it and append the data to any logbook that uses csv (Excel, Logbook Pro, I assume LogTen Pro ) I use Logbook Pro. The APDL app logs it leg by leg, getting all the required info from open source flight trackers. Out, In, Tail number, it computes night time for you, so once you give APDL your schedule, you don't have to do anything other than to import it into your logbook program.

When I flew RJs, i just logged them as CR2, CR7, CR9, E135, E140, E145. That way I could break out all the different types of RJs. Same for the Airbus, logged as 319,320,321. On resumes and apps, I just lump them all together EMB-145, CL-65, A320 time.
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I did the copy paste thing but what it spot out didn't look right. Out of pocket right now, will look into this more after this trip. Many thanks
 
JMK said:
I actually just bit the bullet and tried that Excel one, it might work for some of you but I don't see how it's going to work with helicopter and fixed wing. On that note, I'm not sure how well any of these are going to work for helicopter and airplane logbooks. Anyone dual rated that has any suggestions for e-logbooks?
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I bought logbook pro and am dual rated. I'm out of pocket right now but can give you a better review when I get home. Call me dumb, but I found it too technical or unnecessarily complicated if you will, however once you got it configured to the way you like it, just plug in the numbers. This is probably true for all the different programs but you can make custom fields, you input aircraft types( i.e. CRJ200, Bell 206 ) and specify their characteristics such as fixed wing, rotor wing, turbine, piston, multi engine, skid or wheels, etc etc so you can track multitudes of different types of times, customizable reports if you are filling out an insurance form it whatever you can look up specific times such as tailwheel last 90 days, last 12 months, etc etc
 
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Flyinthrew said:
Since we're talking about e-logs, can somebody render an opinion about Log Ten Pro? It looks like it has everything I want, but I'm not sure the fee/subscription structure is what I want. I was about to download it, but the reviews in the Apple store are so poor that I stopped.

I'm thinking that after I get through the job search and I'm where I'm going to be I just export whatever e-log I have to Excel and be done unless I feel like I need it for the rest rules function.

With that said, I'm looking for an e-log that will print my logbook out (when the time comes) in a smooth and professional format.
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I've been using LogTen Pro X for over a year now and I definitely recommend it, if you have a Mac. If you don't have a Mac, it probably isn't the best option for you. I do subscribe to the mobile apps as well but have really never used them. You can create "smart groups" that track your hours of about any combination of categories you can think of. It's great for creating reports like an 8710 or if you want to print your hours in a typical logbook format, they have Jeppesen, Sporty's, ASA, and a few others. Only issue I've come across is their support department sometimes takes weeks to get back to you if you have a problem. I don't have any experience with the apps others have listed here but I've been very happy with LogTen Pro.
 
I fly in Switzerland as a freelance pilot and flight instructor and use the ROTAIR FlightLog (www.flightmanagement.ch) which has all I need. Specially the Swiss mountain landing places and it is able to add all custom fields I need. If I write reviews in the App store it doesn’t cost my anything :).
 
tattooguy21 said:
I had the same problems regarding little known/imaginary landing locations for my helicopter stuff (particularly the lat long.)

I kept trying based on the way THEY have it in and the way THEY recommended it.

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Probably not the answer you wanted, but as stated, I just kept trying and it went
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I didn’t even bother. I created one offsite LZ per crap bag country I’ve flown in and that’s it. I put the actual LZ name in the remarks.
 
JMK said:
I actually just bit the bullet and tried that Excel one, it might work for some of you but I don't see how it's going to work with helicopter and fixed wing. On that note, I'm not sure how well any of these are going to work for helicopter and airplane logbooks. Anyone dual rated that has any suggestions for e-logbooks?
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Unless you're flying just one make & model for your employer, an Excel sheet is the way to go. Some of my flying is very unique; multiple categories & classes, multiple types, landing at places that don't have identifiers, etc. Not to mention the need to fill out insurance forms with time in type from the last 90 180 or 365 days. It can spit out times needed for almost anything. Such as for an 8710, or time in type; then break it down for each type as dual given, dual received, PIC, SIC. As well as landing and instrument currency. Modifying an excel sheet is the only way I can keep up with the data as I need it. The price tag is affordable too, FREE!
 
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I use Logbook Pro, it works but it is such an outdated and tedious app. I'd love a better program
 
I use SafeLog. Lot of customization available and if you are still logging paper as well you can configure it to be a mirror of the paper. They have a 10 entry "trial" on their website and pilot referrals get both the referrer and referee(?) a subscription extension.
Runs on android, windows, mac, and iOS with web interface as well and 1 subscription gets you access to all versions. Very easy to filter by specific categories.

It's definitely not the fastest program but I like it. You can also send them your logbook files from another eLogbook and they will import them for you (some programs have a service charge though).

Edit: Forgot to mention. The program runs fine without an internet connection and will sync your data to their servers every time it starts (computer only) or when you force it to. So automatic off-site backup is included in the subscription price. You can also buy a lifetime sub if you want a one-and-done payment for it.

Edit 2: If anyone is planning on buying a subscription, please PM me for a referral so we can both get the subscription extension perk.
 
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