Weird situation in PHX

[/QOUTE] the victim had neither a pilot's license nor a valid student pilot's certificate and that the plane, a 1961 Nord owned by the Lundells, was not registered [/QUOTE]

just the type of peple i want to be sharing the sky with
 
Weird...Who cares about the Arizona Laws, he removed evidence from a Federal Investigation, its a felony.
 
"Case Grande police got the identifying N-number off the plane tail and located a Paradise Valley address. "

and at the end it says.....

"Walker said that the victim had neither a pilot's license nor a valid student pilot's certificate and that the plane, a 1961 Nord owned by the Lundells, was not registered."


If they were able to track the plane thru its N number, i would assume the plane was registered. I am just guessing.
 
Champcar said:
Im really having a hard time swallowing this one. I just can't imagine what that had to be like.
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I totally agree.

Why would he take the body home like that and show it to everyone?

I'd rather have the coroner and the mortuary or who does the cleaning up of the body clean it up and present it nicely, not all blood and brain all over?:(
 
Bigey said:
I totally agree.

Why would he take the body home like that and show it to everyone?

I'd rather have the coroner and the mortuary or who does the cleaning up of the body clean it up and present it nicely, not all blood and brain all over?:(
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Unfortunatly they dont do that. The just do a quick sow job and the rest is laid on the chest. Its very rare to have an open casket with an aviation accident.
 
Yup, it's a pretty big local story out here in PHX.

People do some pretty strange stuff when they're grief-stricken.
 
Champcar said:
Unfortunatly they dont do that. The just do a quick sow job and the rest is laid on the chest. Its very rare to have an open casket with an aviation accident.
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I see.

Does the family not have to "identify" the victim? If so, would the blood and stuff be cleaned up and the family can visit him there? I dont know..this is just weirding me out and grossing me out.
 
Ask MikeD for a copy of "The Bill Waldock Aviation Safety" tapes.

You won't eat for at least a day after watching them.

Trust me, I had aviation safety right before my lunch break at Riddle. Accidents are nasty, nasty business.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Ask MikeD for a copy of "The Bill Waldock Aviation Safety" tapes.

You won't eat for at least a day after watching them.

Trust me, I had aviation safety right before my lunch break at Riddle. Accidents are nasty, nasty business.
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Hey I work for Waldock!! I've been under his wing for a few years now. Hes got all kinds of stuff that will make your hungry

I was going to PM you If there was anyway I could help in the safety fourm. I've been on here since 2002, previously ROCjetBlue320 but I lost my password so here i am reborn.
 
Bigey said:
I see.

Does the family not have to "identify" the victim? If so, would the blood and stuff be cleaned up and the family can visit him there? I dont know..this is just weirding me out and grossing me out.
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If the body is somewhat intact or is not burned, then a family member will usually be called out to the scene to ID before its removed. If not then DNA, Dental records, etc will be used. ITs not something you want to be involved in if its a loved on.
 
And another weird situation in another part of the world-




Man Kills Air Traffic Controller After Family Dies In Crash

POSTED: 11:42 am PDT October 26, 2005

ZURICH, Switzerland -- A Russian architect whose family died when two planes collided acknowledged in court Tuesday that he later killed the air traffic controller who had been on duty, but said he could not remember doing it.

Vitaly Kaloyev said he never wanted to cause physical suffering to anybody and only sought an apology from the head of the air navigation service Skyguide, whom he called the "main culprit" in the July 1, 2002, air crash that killed his wife and children.

"After it (the crash), distress was my entire life," Kaloyev said as his trial opened Tuesday. "I'm still crying today over my children."

Prosecutor Ulrich Weder asked the Superior Court to sentence Kaloyev to 12 years' imprisonment for stabbing to death air traffic controller Peter Nielsen. He said the crime was clearly premeditated homicide, but fell short of murder because Kaloyev had not acted out of malice.

Kaloyev's lawyers pleaded for manslaughter and said the defendant was tormented by great psychological distress at the time of the crime. They said any prison term should not exceed three years.

Nielsen had been on duty alone on the day two planes collided over southern Germany -- an area for which he was responsible.

He reportedly gave only 44 seconds' warning to a Bashkirian Airlines plane and a DHL cargo aircraft that they were getting too close to each other. He told the Russian plane to descend -- sending the jetliner straight into the cargo jet.

The crash killed 71 people, including Kaloyev's wife and his two children who were on their way to visit him in Spain, where he was working. He immediately went to the crash site and found his daughter's body almost intact.

Kaloyev acknowledged under the weight of evidence that he was responsible for the death of the Danish-born controller in February 2004, but said he could not remember any of the details.

Nielsen, 36, died of multiple stab wounds in his back yard. Kaloyev was later arrested in Zurich.

Kaloyev, 49, has been held in a psychiatric ward since his arrest for fear that he might attempt to commit suicide.
 
Cool!

Waldock is the bomb, that guy's great!

Does he still wear that hat while he's out in the field?
 
Doug Taylor said:
Cool!

Waldock is the bomb, that guy's great!

Does he still wear that hat while he's out in the field?
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Oh yeah, Bill has all kind of insteresting outfits. When was the last time you've been up here. Have you been up to the Safety lab?
 
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