Weird Experience at FBO yesterday -

AaronPilot4life

AaronPilot4life

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So my buddy and I are hanging out at our local FBO yesterday and a new guy comes along that we never seen before. I guess he bought some block hours in the good ole Piper Seminole we got recently and was ready to start flying. Anyways my buddy and I chat with him and what not and start talking about regionals hiring and all that good stuff. He said he has around 600 hours or so but was low on twin-time, 30 hours or so I believe. He wants to apply to carriers like American Eagle, Colgan, ExpressJet, and a few others he mentioned. My buddy just applied to American Eagle so it got his attention and what not. This new guy brings up the topic of how we got our multi-time and all that stuff. He's like yeah I spent the last of my money on these block hours and is worried about getting more hours to get at least 100. Anyways, to get to the point .. he asks all these questions about do we think Regionals really verify our Multi-Time in the logbook and check with the FBO's on the legality of the time. We were like dude don't even risk it by pencil whipping the book or padding your time - way too risky and a career buster if you got caught. He obviously didn't like our answers and was like HR or whatever is way too busy too be checking on the hours and many people have probably pencil whipped the book and got away with it. He is on the schedule alot this upcoming week and I want to talk to this guy more about it cause I think he would probably do it (pad his time) by the way he was talking. What do you guys recommend I say to him? Should I talk to our operations lady about it? I don't even really know the guy but seriously that's one hell of a risk for a pilot to take. Agree/Disgree? He had on a continental shirt, wonder if he will apply to XJT.
 
If he wants to go and risk his career like that, let him. It will eventually catch up with him. I wouldnt bother telling anyone in the flight ops department, he may not have done anything wrong... yet.

If it comes up in conversation with him again, all you can do is give him your opinion that it is a very bad idea, and ask him whether hes prepared to bet on HR not checking up on his hours.
 
you could always tell him you need to see his logbook and a second verification of his hours for insurance purposes......if hes gonna whip in some extra multi what makes you think he didn't do it already.
 
surreal1221 said:
Is there no FAR against pencil whipping?
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Something about an ATP and "moral character"


My take on it is that I might have the desire to, yet forcibly restrain myself from, punching him in the face for even THINKING about cheating thousands of other pilots by his selfish actions.

That is all.:nana2:
 
Good luck with trying to get BS time past the Eagle interviewers. Those guys went through our logbooks pretty thoroughly and were pretty picky about time. That's the wrong company to try to cheat.
 
surreal1221 said:
Is there no FAR against pencil whipping?
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Not from the FAR, but I found this regarding falsification on your medical application on which you must report your flight times. Presumeably, this would also apply to your 8710.

"Whoever in any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States knowingly and willfully falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact, or who makes any false, fictitious or fraudulent statements or representations, or entry, may be fined up to $250,000 or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both" (Title 18 U.S. Code. Secs. 1001; 3571).

Cases of falsification may be subject to criminal prosecution by the Department of Justice. This is true whether the false statement is made by the applicant, the Examiner, or both. In view of the pressures sometimes placed on Examiners by their regular patients to ignore a disqualifying physical defect that the physician knows to exist, it is important that all Examiners be aware of possible consequences of such conduct.
 
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