Phil Schuyler
Well-Known Member
Looks like they're giving the first officers a pretty good raise.
Virgin America's 2015 big Pilot pay raise
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Looks like they're giving the first officers a pretty good raise.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Percentage wise? Sure. Dollar wise? No.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Even dollar wise, this is a substantial raise and nearly mirrors jetBlue A320 on hourly rates alone. I was surprised that was as high as this. Technically they know an ALPA drive is coming and they could have just left our current rates and let it lock in once the cards passed. We would then have to start negotiating off those lower rates.
WestIndian425
Well-Known Member
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
True. But like you said, perspective. This was unexpected and a pretty large increase based on the current rates. We've always only gotten raises on the order of $5-10/hr so this one was more than double the expected amount and on hourly rates alone pretty much match jetBlue's A320 rates from 2014-2015. Now lets get this merger going
Baronman
Well-Known Member
Still quite a bit less than JB's rates. Good to see an increase though.
JB (2015) 320 FO
1- $49.56
2- $84.54
3- $99.58
4- $107.93
5- $112.86
JB (2015) 320 CA
5- $185.42
6- $187.77
7- $190.12
8 - $192.54
9- $194.98
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Oh. I didn't have those. I only had this to go by, the rates on APC:
http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airlines/major-national-lcc/jetblue_airways
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
APC doesn't update unless someone submits (and even then whether they decide to use the update).
We get PEA raises through next year.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Ah ok I see. Sounds like the PEA had a multiple year increase. Out mgt only gives a one year raise at a time. So once ALPA passes this year we are going to be stuck on these rates for a while until we get a new CBA.
z987k
Well-Known Member
I'm aiming to beat that this month. I've went to work 1 day so far. 4 legs for 5.6 overall.
Autothrust Blue
"Well, on the Brasilia..."
You should probably disclose that you are no longer a (regional) airline pilot when you make such announcements
Although I went two months this summer where I flew about 5 hours and credited 90 hours.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
Yeah, the new PEA had a three year increase over time. Sad thing is, in 2016 when we get the last increase, we're about where we SHOULD have been in 2014. We used to do the "one year at a time," but no where was that guaranteed or how much it was going to be. They'd get creative with things like contract cut off dates (ie the current Delta rate wasn't good because they started the process before they ratified that contract, etc) and then they decided to jack with the peer set group to change the ball game. So, in a year where all common sense said we should get a 10% raise, we'd get a 2% raise. Fast forward to a year where we should get a 15-20% raise, and we'd get a 10%. Essentially, they had a figure in mind, then it seemed like they'd alter the data presented to us to back up that figure and expect us not to use our brains. I think that was the driving factor behind ALPA being voted in almost as much as the healthcare debacle. Take those two management mis-steps away, and we're still non-union. Your management is playing the "pay them and they'll be happy" game where ours was more into placating the shareholders instead.
