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What did you do on the 737? That thing was a Grob motor-glider!
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What did you do on the 737? That thing was a Grob motor-glider!
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Huh... I do that in the jet now.
We used to be able to but they moved the flap speed from 230 to 200 so it's not really possible any more.
SmoothLanderJ
Well-Known Member
Doug Taylor said:
Indeed it is!
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
We can't QUITE do that, but we'll do 250 to the marker, which I'm told the CRJ can't do.
It's not much, but it's something!
It can be done, but you have to know the plane really well and be on top of your configuration changes. I've won a few dinners on that bet.....
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
Even easier when the visual approach stabilization was still at 500'.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
yours isn't?
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
In the process of being full config'd at 1000 AFE, and on speed by 500...sounds like a typical day in the Q400. I've done 245 to the marker coming into Seattle (aka Boeing Field) and made it quite easily.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
that's quite normal... Although for ioe I hard line them at 1000. Bad things tend to happen to new people who are still trying to catch up to the plane at 500ft.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
1000' AGL now. Changed it about 2 or 3 FOM revisions ago. For a while, it was 1000' AGL in the FOM and 500' AGL in the CFM, though.....
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
And I fly with captains that think it is still stable by 500'.
1000' takes a little fun out of visual approaches.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
Fun is irrelevant. That's why they call it a job. If you want fun rent something aerobatic.
(sorry, bad mood today)
(sorry, bad mood today)
SurferLucas
Southern Gentleman
Don't make us send you back to the home!
WacoFan
Bigly
Why would he rent something aerobatic - he owns something aerobatic?
That said, I agree that Ctab is probably dangerous (teeth-clinch move here) and a menace in the air.
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
If you don't have fun at work then it becomes a mundane job you will eventually grow to hate.
If you have fun at work and enjoy what you are doing then it quickly becomes a true career and not simply a job.
I like being able to kick off the autopilot and fly the airplane on a good visual approach. The 1000' stabilization has almost turned this airline into an "ILS to every airport" type environment.
Same thing at mainline.
Just think, less than a decade ago, we were shooting VOR-A approaches and circle to lands.
Now those are DANGEROUS! YOU ARE DANGEROUS for reminding people of this once dangerous practice!!
Do your OpsSpecs allow NDB approaches? Or any kind of radar approaches such as ASR/PAR?
ctab5060X
Well-Known Member
We still dive and drive...
I've even been issued a low altitude alert by ATC in BOS due to the dive and drive practice.
Yeah, but we overlay an approach over it. But all-out compass rose raw datas, I doubt it but I'd have to look.
ASR/PAR? I'll have to look. But in an emergency situation, like Adama says, "Do yer jawbz."