flylownfast
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I'm a student pilot, how come atc always yells and tells me that I'm flying to wide of a pattern. He sometimes says that he's going to kick me out of the pattern, does he have the right to do that?
And don't forget you're not a 747. Keep it within gliding distance-if you don't know how far that is pull the power back one day and run the scenario in you mind. Will you make it? If not it's time to pull it in a little closer. Not to mention you help the flow of traffic by keeping it in closer. One airplane in the pattern can ruin everyone elses day by doing 747 patterns.
The worst part is that our school doesn't allow us to extend our downwinds. We have to turn base and just enter the upwind and try again.
Dont see why not... Ive kicked out plenty during peak traffic times.does he have the right to do that?
The worst part is that our school doesn't allow us to extend our downwinds. We have to turn base and just enter the upwind and try again.
Interesting. I'm assuming you're at an uncontrolled field. What happens when your student goes to a towered field and the controller instructs him to extend his downwind?
Why not?
Is it just to keep within gliding distance of the runway?
Does that mean that you get to cut a 152 doing a 747 pattern off?
Wow. I'm surprised that you have to climb all the way to TPA on upwind and aren't allowed to extend downwind. What about playing with speed?I have had many flights where my student lost a lot of landings because of a C-150 doing 747 patterns. 6 landings in an hour instead of 10 or so when practicing to solo. The climb out to traffic pattern altitude on the upwind before turning x-wind hurts in a C-150, not to mention the aircraft is always drifting away from the runway and they extend their downwind by a mile. The worst part is that our school doesn't allow us to extend our downwinds. We have to turn base and just enter the upwind and try again.
tight patterns are good patterns. i HATE following someone who puts themselves on a 5 mile final and 2 miles laterally from the runway... burning up my time and gas!!!
you can keep it PLENTY close using no more than 30 degrees bank and nice coordinated turns.
I'm a student pilot, how come atc always yells and tells me that I'm flying to wide of a pattern. He sometimes says that he's going to kick me out of the pattern, does he have the right to do that?
the old slow flight down wind for sequencing.IOW:
Instead of extending downwind, slow down on the downwind and still be able to fit in the landing instead of doing the upwind shuffle?
Is it just to keep within gliding distance of the runway?