VFR clearances

[rausda27]

I read in the latest issue of AOPA flight training magazine (June 2003, page 22 first paragraph)

"If the airport from which you are flying has a seperate clearance delivery frequency-primarily larger airports with their own Class B or Class C airspace-ATC expects that you have received a clearance from the clearance delivery controller before you call ground control for taxi instructions. Clearances are required even for VFR aircraft"

Just for fun:



Does anyone know where this is documented in the regs or AIM? It seems that some Class C airports expect you to call ground and some expect clearance delivery...so any clarification would be appreciated...

 

[Eagle]

if the airport is using Clnc, Gnd will tell you, (so will the ATIS usually) Gnd and Clnc, often are the same guy...

 

[rausda27]

Thats what I have often found, it was just the part of ATC expecting you to contact clearance before ground. I have not been able to document this anywhere.

 

[I_Money]

Yeah at all the class Charlie and Bravo airports I have flown out of have a frequency for clearance, whom you are expected to contact before ground. At some airports it is on the ATIS some it is not.

 

[E_Dawg]

Usually the ATIS will say so. If not, it's probably somewhere in the Pilot's Guide or some kind of VFR airport info. If I wasn't sure I'd just call clearance anyways (or flie IFR hahaha

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In the class D at LGB in Socal they expect you to call clearance with your runway request and location. I have NO clue why.... the best I can come up with is that it is some kind of ego thing for this one *high strung* controller up there... probably wants a Class C but can't so he does the next best thing...