V-22 Osprey Drivers
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Flyinhigh728
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I absolutely love the sound of the dolphin with its fenestron t/r. I really miss the reassuring sound of the Maryland State Police flying over in their Dolphins. Although their new fleet of 139's are beautiful, they just don't sound nearly as good.
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
We have twin engine helis out here.
atpduck
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Not a fan. Disclaimer, I was a CH-53E Crew Chief (6173) for 12 years. We would fly mixed sections with them every so often. Their approach and departures out of LZ's was painfully slow, obviously in cruise they are faster than a 53, but their cabin is dimensionally the same as a CH-46 which means they don't carry a whole lot. I also viewed them as the vampires of MC Aviation, they were not "allowed" to fail, so the rest of the rotary wing community did without to guarantee the V-22's success. Again just the jadeded view of a dirty smelly Shi++er guy.
Sorry to hear that. My condolences.
Ha! It's not to bad actually. Quiet (mostly), clean... A lot better than Fayetteville (Ft Bragg) when I lived there.
In terms of what?
The FAA views it as Powered Lift, which is a recognized Category in the same way that Airplane, Rotorcraft, etc are. They address it in 14 CFR 61 along with the other Categories. How that translates into anything else for resume/job purposes, I'm not certain.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
To me, this is wantonly unfair for the pilots. That was part of my question about cyclic/collective controls. If you're operating the thing as a helo, you damn sure ought to be able to have the time logged as RW time.
I'm certain that people smarter than me have reasons for setting up the rules this way - I just can see a guy with a thousand hours of powered-lift time having a hard time trying to get a "real" aviation job that he's probably very qualified for in a practical sense.
But, maybe I'm just looking for a problem that doesn't exist. I dunno.
Pilot Fighter
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True, but ATP [qualified or close], even [with PL background], is a pretty good start.
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The sound is a mix of ground thumping bass and your teeth chattering as you hear it.
deadstick
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How would they get the ATP? Isn't milcomp only to the CPL level? If there aren't any FAA certified sims or aircraft...
With that said, there should be civilian jobs next year. I believe that's when the first 609 is expected to be delivered. Bristow appears to be the launch customer if anybody wants to get that resume ready.
T/O w/FSII
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I'll take two please... Ferrari red and lambo yellow.
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
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Pilot Fighter
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I was thinking ATP or RATP qualified or close to it.
A V-22 guy would probably 8710 the commercial PL or MEL and probably go SEL or MEL for the ATP with some transition time in category.
Before getting to the V-22, that guy has earned his ppl (or soloed in indoc), done primary in a T-6 and multi-engine training in a C-12. So, he's got a fair share of FW experience.
My point was that the PL isn't a dead end.
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deadstick
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Wasn't somebody says they went right into the 22 without UPT?
When I rule the world, they'd go through the full IERW course at Rucker and the C12 f/w transition. The way I see it, when an engine fails there is no asymmetrical thrust or critical engine. The trannies send power to the other side. In short, the f/w stuff won't kill 'em quickly. The r/w characteristics will, such as settling with power.
When I rule the world, they'd go through the full IERW course at Rucker and the C12 f/w transition. The way I see it, when an engine fails there is no asymmetrical thrust or critical engine. The trannies send power to the other side. In short, the f/w stuff won't kill 'em quickly. The r/w characteristics will, such as settling with power.